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I'm surprised people still actively use it and it seems on par with nginx, at least according to https://www.netcraft.com/blog/january-2023-web-server-survey/ h

I'm surprised people still actively use it and it seems on par with nginx, at least according to https://www.netcraft.com/blog/january-2023-web-server-survey/ https://www.netcraft.com/blog/january-2023-web-server-survey...

1over137 3y ago
I'm surprised you're surprised. It's a good web server.
- badcppdev 3y ago
  I'm surprised HN hasn't added a feature where if you start a comment with "I'm surprised" it asks you to tick a box to confirm that you're really sure you're contributing to the discussion.
  - nontiko 3y ago
    Usually when I’m surprised about something, I realize that I am uninformed or out of touch.
  - bityard 3y ago
    I am strongly in favor of this. I would also like HN to implement a warning that your comment may be extremely uninteresting if it starts out with, "Unfortunately..." or, "Can we all just agree that..."
    - supriyo-biswas 3y ago
      Also some of the snide comments beginning with “lol” and “I didn’t ask you”.
  - bewuethr 3y ago
    I've found the experience when people are explicitly requested to never do this (feign surprise) to be excellent; for example, Recurse Center: https://www.recurse.com/manual#sub-sec-social-rules https://www.recurse.com/manual#sub-sec-social-rules
Twirrim 3y ago
Why surprised? It's rock solid, stable, fast, and does pretty much everything you need, and nothing is hidden behind premium tiers, unlike nginx where they leave bugs and awful behaviour in the open source version that aren't in the premium ones (e.g. nginx used to only resolve hostname entries on start-up, https://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,215830,215832#msg-215832 https://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,215830,215832#msg-215832, so if you used a hostname in proxy_pass, and the DNS changed, oops sorry. Actual honouring of DNS TTLs used to be a premium only feature)
- thakoppno 3y ago
  I love apache as much as anyone, cut my teeth with it and still work with it plenty. It doesn’t strike me as odd to question its fit for people who have more experience with containers. If there’s a reverse proxy in the front, one may just need business logic in the back.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    >If there’s a reverse proxy in the front, one may just need business logic in the back. I'm trying to imagine what that haircut would look like
    - kstrauser 3y ago
      Walk into your nearest Hot Topic.
    - daveevad 3y ago
      Full disclosure: I haven't cut my hair in awhile. It may be influencing my architecture decisions at this point.
  - tempest_ 3y ago
    I am actively trying to remove apache from a large chunk of projects mainly because at this point it is being used as a poor reverse proxy and not a web server which is its core competency.
gustavus 3y ago
I agree after all Node.js is Bad Ass Rockstar Tech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzkRVzciAZg&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzkRVzciAZg&t=1s
nurettin 3y ago
I wonder what "other" is and how it suddenly shot up while Apache was suddenly going down.
bikezen 3y ago
It's still in most distros default repos, unlike things like caddy, and also supports features like mod_ldap out of the box without enterprise, like nginx. If you just need a simple web server, potentially with some auth even for static files its a no brainier default for internal projects.

1over137 3y ago

I'm surprised you're surprised. It's a good web server.

badcppdev 3y ago
I'm surprised HN hasn't added a feature where if you start a comment with "I'm surprised" it asks you to tick a box to confirm that you're really sure you're contributing to the discussion.
- nontiko 3y ago
  Usually when I’m surprised about something, I realize that I am uninformed or out of touch.
- bityard 3y ago
  I am strongly in favor of this. I would also like HN to implement a warning that your comment may be extremely uninteresting if it starts out with, "Unfortunately..." or, "Can we all just agree that..."
  - supriyo-biswas 3y ago
    Also some of the snide comments beginning with “lol” and “I didn’t ask you”.
- bewuethr 3y ago
  I've found the experience when people are explicitly requested to never do this (feign surprise) to be excellent; for example, Recurse Center: https://www.recurse.com/manual#sub-sec-social-rules https://www.recurse.com/manual#sub-sec-social-rules

Twirrim 3y ago

Why surprised? It's rock solid, stable, fast, and does pretty much everything you need, and nothing is hidden behind premium tiers, unlike nginx where they leave bugs and awful behaviour in the open source version that aren't in the premium ones (e.g. nginx used to only resolve hostname entries on start-up, https://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,215830,215832#msg-215832 https://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,215830,215832#msg-215832, so if you used a hostname in proxy_pass, and the DNS changed, oops sorry. Actual honouring of DNS TTLs used to be a premium only feature)

thakoppno 3y ago
I love apache as much as anyone, cut my teeth with it and still work with it plenty. It doesn’t strike me as odd to question its fit for people who have more experience with containers. If there’s a reverse proxy in the front, one may just need business logic in the back.
- dylan604 3y ago
  >If there’s a reverse proxy in the front, one may just need business logic in the back. I'm trying to imagine what that haircut would look like
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    Walk into your nearest Hot Topic.
  - daveevad 3y ago
    Full disclosure: I haven't cut my hair in awhile. It may be influencing my architecture decisions at this point.
- tempest_ 3y ago
  I am actively trying to remove apache from a large chunk of projects mainly because at this point it is being used as a poor reverse proxy and not a web server which is its core competency.

gustavus 3y ago

I agree after all Node.js is Bad Ass Rockstar Tech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzkRVzciAZg&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzkRVzciAZg&t=1s

nurettin 3y ago

I wonder what "other" is and how it suddenly shot up while Apache was suddenly going down.

bikezen 3y ago

It's still in most distros default repos, unlike things like caddy, and also supports features like mod_ldap out of the box without enterprise, like nginx. If you just need a simple web server, potentially with some auth even for static files its a no brainier default for internal projects.