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> they're only going to provide safety announcements on Facebook. While I understand, what's the alternative you propose? I have seen HN threads ridiculing so

> they're only going to provide safety announcements on Facebook. While I understand, what's the alternative you propose? I have seen HN threads ridiculing some govt website for being outdated or not fixing the latest vulnerability or not using the latest version etc. Or if they do allocate a bigger chunk of their budget for tech and there will be unreasonable HN threads about how one user feels he/she could build it over a weekend and question the budgets. Worst yet, I have seen numerous HN threads talking about big ad tech (which most big tech are), claiming their services are totally non essential and a waste of time, and how their life improved since they stopped using these services. This comment goes as far as to call all the users as serfs totally ignoring that many real people and their real use cases :( I feel its used because it's free and it simply works for most people. I feel the status quo is there because of the lack of a better one. You simply cannot make everyone happy on HN, let alone all people.

jerf 3y ago
"While I understand, what's the alternative you propose?" Simple: Strike the word "only". It's not that hard to post to several sites and also your own. I'd like some RSS on the main site too. It's not that hard for an individual and it's even easier for an organization with thousands of employees.
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- Lio 3y ago
  Yep that's it exactly. I'd prefer the government to host its own data. I'd also like any site hosting public information to be compelled to serve that information to everyone. Facebook may not know they're being used like this, and it would be fine for them to object, but if they do want to carry government alerts they should be open to non-users without tracking or shadow profiling.
- NoGravitas 3y ago
  Publish on your own site, syndicate elsewhere. (https://indieweb.org/POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE)
scbrg 3y ago
> I have seen HN threads ridiculing some govt website for being outdated or not fixing the latest vulnerability or not using the latest version etc. Or if they do allocate a bigger chunk of their budget for tech and there will be unreasonable HN threads about how one user feels he/she could build it over a weekend and question the budgets. So? Public institutions are free to run "outdated" web sites and ignore random people ridiculing them on HN. "We're on a budget, stop whining" is a perfectly valid response, if a such behavior even warrants a response.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >Public institutions are free to run "outdated" web sites and ignore random people ridiculing them on HN. And people are free to ignore them and rely on trillion dollar corporations. I understand your point, but the main point here isn't internet elitism. It's how you justify hosting servers for stuff no one is already visiting. "Not relying on Meta" is an equally HN take.

jerf 3y ago

"While I understand, what's the alternative you propose?" Simple: Strike the word "only". It's not that hard to post to several sites and also your own. I'd like some RSS on the main site too. It's not that hard for an individual and it's even easier for an organization with thousands of employees.

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Lio 3y ago
Yep that's it exactly. I'd prefer the government to host its own data. I'd also like any site hosting public information to be compelled to serve that information to everyone. Facebook may not know they're being used like this, and it would be fine for them to object, but if they do want to carry government alerts they should be open to non-users without tracking or shadow profiling.
NoGravitas 3y ago
Publish on your own site, syndicate elsewhere. (https://indieweb.org/POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE)

scbrg 3y ago

> I have seen HN threads ridiculing some govt website for being outdated or not fixing the latest vulnerability or not using the latest version etc. Or if they do allocate a bigger chunk of their budget for tech and there will be unreasonable HN threads about how one user feels he/she could build it over a weekend and question the budgets. So? Public institutions are free to run "outdated" web sites and ignore random people ridiculing them on HN. "We're on a budget, stop whining" is a perfectly valid response, if a such behavior even warrants a response.

johnnyanmac 3y ago
>Public institutions are free to run "outdated" web sites and ignore random people ridiculing them on HN. And people are free to ignore them and rely on trillion dollar corporations. I understand your point, but the main point here isn't internet elitism. It's how you justify hosting servers for stuff no one is already visiting. "Not relying on Meta" is an equally HN take.