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Most linux distributions have a rather robust mirroring operation. This is much faster than bittorrent. Lots of cloud vendors provide a mirror endpoint for traf

Most linux distributions have a rather robust mirroring operation. This is much faster than bittorrent. Lots of cloud vendors provide a mirror endpoint for traffic within their network, and ISPs typically also have them. The network is fast enough for lots of small files to not really justify it.

Avamander 3y ago
Though with webseeds it shouldn't matter that much, not to add redundancy with BT.
strangesmells02 3y ago
I think that hundreds of thousands of peer machines would be way faster than a few centralized repositories... right? It seems you would have essentially unlimited bandwidth.
- tiluha 3y ago
  Finding peers is somewhat slow. When downloading via torrent it takes a while to really ramp up in speed. With a centralized repository you can start downloading basically right away. For many small files the latency is more important than the bandwidth, given that most repositories are not short on bandwitdth.
  - strangesmells02 3y ago
    That seems easy to work around. You could write it in such a way that it would have a live cache of peers ready to go plus also the centralized peers would always be available. I personally suspect that having centralized repos is a legacy technology from pre-torrent days when also disk wasnt cheap.
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- kortilla 3y ago
  Picking a peer you have good bandwidth to is a hard problem.
xd1936 3y ago
They could scale back their mirroring operation to only a few servers that act as Webseeds? Then you get the best of both worlds. http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0019.html http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0019.html
candiodari 3y ago
> The network is fast enough for lots of small files to not really justify it. Not really true. Try the following: ssh into the host doing the mirroring, with socks proxy. Now socksify apt through the connection. The speed difference is amazing. Despite double encrypting.

Avamander 3y ago

Though with webseeds it shouldn't matter that much, not to add redundancy with BT.

strangesmells02 3y ago

I think that hundreds of thousands of peer machines would be way faster than a few centralized repositories... right? It seems you would have essentially unlimited bandwidth.

tiluha 3y ago
Finding peers is somewhat slow. When downloading via torrent it takes a while to really ramp up in speed. With a centralized repository you can start downloading basically right away. For many small files the latency is more important than the bandwidth, given that most repositories are not short on bandwitdth.
- strangesmells02 3y ago
  That seems easy to work around. You could write it in such a way that it would have a live cache of peers ready to go plus also the centralized peers would always be available. I personally suspect that having centralized repos is a legacy technology from pre-torrent days when also disk wasnt cheap.
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kortilla 3y ago
Picking a peer you have good bandwidth to is a hard problem.

xd1936 3y ago

They could scale back their mirroring operation to only a few servers that act as Webseeds? Then you get the best of both worlds. http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0019.html http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0019.html

candiodari 3y ago

> The network is fast enough for lots of small files to not really justify it. Not really true. Try the following: ssh into the host doing the mirroring, with socks proxy. Now socksify apt through the connection. The speed difference is amazing. Despite double encrypting.