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Why is an autonomous state (a grander version of the outstation idea) within the bounds of the Australian constitution not considered?[1] Allot a certain percen

Why is an autonomous state (a grander version of the outstation idea) within the bounds of the Australian constitution not considered?[1] Allot a certain percentage of the federal budget to the state for the next 50/100 years and let them manage their affairs (including internal conflicts)? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outstation_(Aboriginal_community) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outstation_(Aboriginal_communi...

mrkeen 3y ago
Willingly moving into apartheid is a terrible idea.
- ta_vf7xjd34cc 3y ago
  > apartheid It is autonomy, not apartheid. There are many ethnic/religious communities around the world who have fought for autonomy to varying degrees of success.
  - tomhoward 3y ago
    Nobody is asking for that, and nobody thinks that kind of thing would solve the problems in indigenous communities, or that it would be desirable. Indigenous people want to be able to participate in mainstream Australian life, but feel adequately represented and heard by the political system and broader society. Also it's been done before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_reserve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_reserve
  - throwawa14223 3y ago
    I don't understand how autonomy and apartheid are anything other than positive and negative spin on the same concept.
    - ta_vf7xjd34cc 3y ago
      To use a marriage analogy, autonomy (bounded) is consensual separation where the injured party has initiative and control over their actions. Apartheid would be the husband restricting the wife to a certain area of the house and beating her everyday. Autonomy is the best way to preserve culture. A tiny minority living among people who do not share their values will eventually lose any connection to their past due to assimilation unless they adopt extreme orthodoxy like the Amish/Mennonites/Haredim (who too have to form ghettos to achieve their goals).

mrkeen 3y ago

Willingly moving into apartheid is a terrible idea.

ta_vf7xjd34cc 3y ago
> apartheid It is autonomy, not apartheid. There are many ethnic/religious communities around the world who have fought for autonomy to varying degrees of success.
- tomhoward 3y ago
  Nobody is asking for that, and nobody thinks that kind of thing would solve the problems in indigenous communities, or that it would be desirable. Indigenous people want to be able to participate in mainstream Australian life, but feel adequately represented and heard by the political system and broader society. Also it's been done before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_reserve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_reserve
- throwawa14223 3y ago
  I don't understand how autonomy and apartheid are anything other than positive and negative spin on the same concept.
  - ta_vf7xjd34cc 3y ago
    To use a marriage analogy, autonomy (bounded) is consensual separation where the injured party has initiative and control over their actions. Apartheid would be the husband restricting the wife to a certain area of the house and beating her everyday. Autonomy is the best way to preserve culture. A tiny minority living among people who do not share their values will eventually lose any connection to their past due to assimilation unless they adopt extreme orthodoxy like the Amish/Mennonites/Haredim (who too have to form ghettos to achieve their goals).