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Good riddance of a far-right pro-nazi bar

by jlpcsl 3y ago

Garvi 3y ago
I never liked Elon, but "far-right pro-nazi bar"? Are you from reddit or did I just miss something?
- adl 3y ago
  He has shared content from far right/pro-Nazi accounts in the past.
  - Garvi 3y ago
    I take it the fact you're not sharing any sources is because your claim is either weak, out of context, or have never checked it yourself. Do we crucify Elon because he agreed on an unrelated topic with a person he did not know was a nazi? So you hate a celebrity for a past time. Do you get confirmation for this kind of behaviour on other websites?
    - snowpid 3y ago
      here you go: https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/wirtschaft/soziale-netzwerke-elon-musk-verbreitet-afd-behauptungen-und-verliert-kunden-was-ist-los-mit-twitter-id68070721.html https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/wirtschaft/soziale-netz...
      - Garvi 3y ago
        No nazis, no far right.. Elon agreeing with a point a conservative politician made makes him a nazi to you. Are you even German? Are you actually familiar with AFDs talking points? I take it you're on team anti-evil and saw the target painted. Elon is an asshole. But the media didn't come after him until he started talking sense on Ukraine. Now every loser with a complex is using it as therapy to badmouth Elon.
        SenAnder 3y ago
        > Elon agreeing with a point a conservative politician made makes him a nazi to you I can't read German - what was the point?
        Garvi 3y ago
        Physical attacks on right-leaning politicians in Germany are on the rise. Usually in the name of peaceful coexistance, as they are targeted at politicians opposing an open immigration policy. I personally oppose an open immigration policy and I see myself more on the left in most issues. That's why the whole left / right divide is nonsense. I can oppose keeping minimum income low by employing(taking advantage of) people from poorer countries without being racist. Calling Elon a nazi because he agreed with something a right leaning politician said is juvenile. And that's coming from a person whose family was targeted for extemination by the nazis (grandfather was an intellectual slav(dr.med.), can't have that screwing with the race theories).
        rvz 3y ago
        Spot on. > Calling Elon a nazi because he agreed with something a right leaning politician said is juvenile. And that's coming from a person whose family was targeted for extemination by the nazis (grandfather was an intellectual slav(dr.med.), can't have that screwing with the race theories). Exactly. It seems that word (Nazi) just loses its meaning each time it is loosely used to describe someone that they don't like, in this case to Elon Musk and others. It is beyond childish and does a disservice to those who have fought actual 'Nazis' or have directly suffered under them. So their best [0] was to find a guilt by association over Elon and this politician in the article, agreeing with being against open and uncontrolled immigration; therefore Nazi. Oh dear. Maybe everyone who is driving Volkswagons today are also nazis or anyone working for IBM is also a nazi. /s [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37940653 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37940653
        snowpid 3y ago
        sorry false news spreading. The politician who was attacked was far right, was lying (claimed, he was poisoned) and spread the lie after debunked.
  - SenAnder 3y ago
    Both far-right and pro-Nazi definitions have been greatly expanded to cover nearly all of the "original antifa" [1], CS Lewis is a far-right red-flag [2], and "racist" has been expanded beyond all meaning [3]. Meanwhile the Canadian parliament applauded a literal Waffen SS fighter [4], but somehow the 'Nazi-adjacent' label didn't stick to them. Which is not to say there is no genuine merit behind your accusation, just that, without elaborating, it's impossible to know what they mean, as even just enforcing standing immigration law is far-right these days. [1] Prevailing opinion among 5872 typical white enlisted men in the Air Forces is: Train Negroes as pilots, bombardiers and navigators, but segregate the Negro both in training and in subsequent duty. - https://ia902302.us.archive.org/25/items/us-war-department-final-race-wonk-room/US%20War%20Department%20-%20Final-Race-Wonk-Room_text.pdf https://ia902302.us.archive.org/25/items/us-war-department-f... [2] https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/cs-lewis-home-office-prevent-anti-terrorism-ricu-unit-flags-up-fairytale-author-as-potential-sign-of-far-right-extremism-4060214 https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/cs-lewis-home-office... [3] https://www.embracerace.org/resources/explaining-to-my-eight-year-old-that-yes-she-too-is-racist https://www.embracerace.org/resources/explaining-to-my-eight... [4] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canadian-parliament-ovation-nazi/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canadian-parliament-ovatio...
    - tptacek 3y ago
      Along with JRR Tolkien, Aldous Huxley, Joseph Conrad and George Orwell.
    - dctoedt 3y ago
      > the Canadian parliament applauded a literal Waffen SS fighter That seems to have been a simple screening fuck-up — probably by a relatively-young staffer — and the MP resigned his post as speaker in consequence.
  - nickik 3y ago
    Share one wrong thing on twitter and you are literally a nazi. Amazing.
- Smoosh 3y ago
  I think it’s a reference to the story about a barkeep kicking out a nazi from his bar even though the nazi wasn’t doing anything wrong because he believed that as soon as you tolerate one, you are a nazi bar.

Good riddance of a far-right pro-nazi bar

by jlpcsl 3y ago

Good riddance of a far-right pro-nazi bar

Garvi 3y ago

I never liked Elon, but "far-right pro-nazi bar"? Are you from reddit or did I just miss something?

adl 3y ago
He has shared content from far right/pro-Nazi accounts in the past.
- Garvi 3y ago
  I take it the fact you're not sharing any sources is because your claim is either weak, out of context, or have never checked it yourself. Do we crucify Elon because he agreed on an unrelated topic with a person he did not know was a nazi? So you hate a celebrity for a past time. Do you get confirmation for this kind of behaviour on other websites?
  - snowpid 3y ago
    here you go: https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/wirtschaft/soziale-netzwerke-elon-musk-verbreitet-afd-behauptungen-und-verliert-kunden-was-ist-los-mit-twitter-id68070721.html https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/wirtschaft/soziale-netz...
    - Garvi 3y ago
      No nazis, no far right.. Elon agreeing with a point a conservative politician made makes him a nazi to you. Are you even German? Are you actually familiar with AFDs talking points? I take it you're on team anti-evil and saw the target painted. Elon is an asshole. But the media didn't come after him until he started talking sense on Ukraine. Now every loser with a complex is using it as therapy to badmouth Elon.
      - SenAnder 3y ago
        > Elon agreeing with a point a conservative politician made makes him a nazi to you I can't read German - what was the point?
        Garvi 3y ago
        Physical attacks on right-leaning politicians in Germany are on the rise. Usually in the name of peaceful coexistance, as they are targeted at politicians opposing an open immigration policy. I personally oppose an open immigration policy and I see myself more on the left in most issues. That's why the whole left / right divide is nonsense. I can oppose keeping minimum income low by employing(taking advantage of) people from poorer countries without being racist. Calling Elon a nazi because he agreed with something a right leaning politician said is juvenile. And that's coming from a person whose family was targeted for extemination by the nazis (grandfather was an intellectual slav(dr.med.), can't have that screwing with the race theories).
        rvz 3y ago
        Spot on. > Calling Elon a nazi because he agreed with something a right leaning politician said is juvenile. And that's coming from a person whose family was targeted for extemination by the nazis (grandfather was an intellectual slav(dr.med.), can't have that screwing with the race theories). Exactly. It seems that word (Nazi) just loses its meaning each time it is loosely used to describe someone that they don't like, in this case to Elon Musk and others. It is beyond childish and does a disservice to those who have fought actual 'Nazis' or have directly suffered under them. So their best [0] was to find a guilt by association over Elon and this politician in the article, agreeing with being against open and uncontrolled immigration; therefore Nazi. Oh dear. Maybe everyone who is driving Volkswagons today are also nazis or anyone working for IBM is also a nazi. /s [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37940653 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37940653
        snowpid 3y ago
        sorry false news spreading. The politician who was attacked was far right, was lying (claimed, he was poisoned) and spread the lie after debunked.
- SenAnder 3y ago
  Both far-right and pro-Nazi definitions have been greatly expanded to cover nearly all of the "original antifa" [1], CS Lewis is a far-right red-flag [2], and "racist" has been expanded beyond all meaning [3]. Meanwhile the Canadian parliament applauded a literal Waffen SS fighter [4], but somehow the 'Nazi-adjacent' label didn't stick to them. Which is not to say there is no genuine merit behind your accusation, just that, without elaborating, it's impossible to know what they mean, as even just enforcing standing immigration law is far-right these days. [1] Prevailing opinion among 5872 typical white enlisted men in the Air Forces is: Train Negroes as pilots, bombardiers and navigators, but segregate the Negro both in training and in subsequent duty. - https://ia902302.us.archive.org/25/items/us-war-department-final-race-wonk-room/US%20War%20Department%20-%20Final-Race-Wonk-Room_text.pdf https://ia902302.us.archive.org/25/items/us-war-department-f... [2] https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/cs-lewis-home-office-prevent-anti-terrorism-ricu-unit-flags-up-fairytale-author-as-potential-sign-of-far-right-extremism-4060214 https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/cs-lewis-home-office... [3] https://www.embracerace.org/resources/explaining-to-my-eight-year-old-that-yes-she-too-is-racist https://www.embracerace.org/resources/explaining-to-my-eight... [4] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canadian-parliament-ovation-nazi/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canadian-parliament-ovatio...
  - tptacek 3y ago
    Along with JRR Tolkien, Aldous Huxley, Joseph Conrad and George Orwell.
  - dctoedt 3y ago
    > the Canadian parliament applauded a literal Waffen SS fighter That seems to have been a simple screening fuck-up — probably by a relatively-young staffer — and the MP resigned his post as speaker in consequence.
- nickik 3y ago
  Share one wrong thing on twitter and you are literally a nazi. Amazing.
Smoosh 3y ago
I think it’s a reference to the story about a barkeep kicking out a nazi from his bar even though the nazi wasn’t doing anything wrong because he believed that as soon as you tolerate one, you are a nazi bar.