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Elon Musk is considering taking X out of Europe amid EU compliance investigation

29 points by thg 3y ago

mqus 3y ago
He should do a vote on X to find out what people want.
Zetobal 3y ago
For his 5head-200iq-4d-chess-brain he plays by the playbook a lot.
macmac 3y ago
Oh, please, please do.
pr07ecH70r 3y ago
I am really surprised how can someone at times look so inginious and at other times eqully so dumb.
- sidibe 3y ago
  The latter is just his nature, the former was a combination of extremely high risk tolerance, confidence and luck. I'm sure there's been many Elons but they floundered or got shut down before they got so much money they could keep doubling down until they win (for a while).
  - MichaelRazum 3y ago
    Exactly just luck and money. For sure he is just dumb. Just a dumb lucky guy who somehow got into a phd program for physics in some dumb university...
    - Larrikin 3y ago
      Sounds like he might be a decent physicist. The vast majority of comments on this website are from smart people that studied computer science, discussing many topics, talking completely out of their butt and often times being totally wrong about subjects outside of their field. Being educated in one field doesn't always translate into other fields.
      - pr07ecH70r 3y ago
        Don't misunderstand me. I never said he is neither dumb nor ingenious. I am just sharing my observation, on how it looks like in this case.
mmoya 3y ago
https://archive.ph/jvNtQ https://archive.ph/jvNtQ
sylware 3y ago
Please Elon, do it!
jlpcsl 3y ago
Good riddance of a far-right pro-nazi bar
- Garvi 3y ago
  I never liked Elon, but "far-right pro-nazi bar"? Are you from reddit or did I just miss something?
  - adl 3y ago
    He has shared content from far right/pro-Nazi accounts in the past.
    - Garvi 3y ago
      I take it the fact you're not sharing any sources is because your claim is either weak, out of context, or have never checked it yourself. Do we crucify Elon because he agreed on an unrelated topic with a person he did not know was a nazi? So you hate a celebrity for a past time. Do you get confirmation for this kind of behaviour on other websites?
      - snowpid 3y ago
        here you go: https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/wirtschaft/soziale-netzwerke-elon-musk-verbreitet-afd-behauptungen-und-verliert-kunden-was-ist-los-mit-twitter-id68070721.html https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/wirtschaft/soziale-netz...
        Garvi 3y ago
        No nazis, no far right.. Elon agreeing with a point a conservative politician made makes him a nazi to you. Are you even German? Are you actually familiar with AFDs talking points? I take it you're on team anti-evil and saw the target painted. Elon is an asshole. But the media didn't come after him until he started talking sense on Ukraine. Now every loser with a complex is using it as therapy to badmouth Elon.
fofoz 3y ago
Do it Elon, please do it. I can't wait to reuse a blog aggregator. I so miss the quality of content that was around back then.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  I’ve setup a dockerised freshrss feed reader on my home server (a tiny core i3) and sub to feeds i care about. Took 10 mins to setup and i live happily since then.
  - TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
    I am just using thunderbird to aggregate RSS
- self_awareness 3y ago
  And what's stopping you now?
coldtea 3y ago
He should do it. Europeans are kids and we like to only be shown safe and official social news, approved by our parents.
fvdessen 3y ago
This would make room for a competing platform
nvm0n2 3y ago
Ugh. I've been saying for years that the EU Commission's approach would eventually lead to stuff like this but nobody was willing to listen. The assumption EU bureaucrats and "EU citizens" make is that there are no limits to the punishment beatings executives will take to avoid bans in large geographical areas. This isn't actually true and has never been true, but for some reason a lot of people are in denial about it. The stream of tech firms giving up on China should have been a wakeup call, the way new products like Bard and Threads launched with EU blocks in place from day one should have been another. The EU is barrelling head first towards being a tech backwater. Unlike China it probably isn't going to implement internet censorship muscular enough to stimulate a set of competent home grown competitors; the Commission always likes to make other people do its dirty work so they'll expect the products themselves to do blocks but the incentives to make those blocks stick aren't really there beyond tickbox compliance. People stuck in member states will just use VPNs or other workarounds, and nobody will pony up the sums needed to build genuine competitors. In turn this means that the EU won't develop home grown replacements to unavailable services or any of the other products people already use, because it's just far too risky to invest the huge sums required when at any moment the Commission might arbitrarily change its mind (something it does regularly) or your target market just gets used to convoluted workarounds. IMPORTANT: To all US tech firm employees reading this. Please remember that not everywhere in Europe is in the EU. The UK, Switzerland, Norway, Ukraine, Serbia, Iceland, Lichtenstein and a whole host of smaller countries are not. Over-blocking is already a big problem for people living in these countries due to things like the GDPR.
- bolobo 3y ago
  > The assumption EU bureaucrats and "EU citizens" make is that there are no limits to the punishment beatings executives will take to avoid bans in large geographical areas I am sorry but what makes you believe that the EU citizen and bureaucrats really want twitter that much? It's not power, water, or food production? It's just a website... If twitter disappeared, the next day something would take its place in the EU. If a foreign company don't want to accept the laws of a country, they can leave, that's fine. I mean, I am sure that the bureaucrats would like nothing more than having a EU company taking over.
- oulu2006 3y ago
Dudester230602 3y ago
EU should strongly consider allocating some funds to speed the process up.
bell-cot 3y ago
Interesting how the article kinda meanders between not-quite-saying that Elan is doing manly brinkmanship and is ready to make a rational business decision, and not-quite-saying that Elan is the dysfunctional captain of a soon-to-be shipwreck.
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JodieBenitez 3y ago
Oh no :-( Anyway...

29 points by thg 3y ago

mqus 3y ago

He should do a vote on X to find out what people want.

Zetobal 3y ago

For his 5head-200iq-4d-chess-brain he plays by the playbook a lot.

macmac 3y ago

Oh, please, please do.

pr07ecH70r 3y ago

I am really surprised how can someone at times look so inginious and at other times eqully so dumb.

sidibe 3y ago
The latter is just his nature, the former was a combination of extremely high risk tolerance, confidence and luck. I'm sure there's been many Elons but they floundered or got shut down before they got so much money they could keep doubling down until they win (for a while).
- MichaelRazum 3y ago
  Exactly just luck and money. For sure he is just dumb. Just a dumb lucky guy who somehow got into a phd program for physics in some dumb university...
  - Larrikin 3y ago
    Sounds like he might be a decent physicist. The vast majority of comments on this website are from smart people that studied computer science, discussing many topics, talking completely out of their butt and often times being totally wrong about subjects outside of their field. Being educated in one field doesn't always translate into other fields.
    - pr07ecH70r 3y ago
      Don't misunderstand me. I never said he is neither dumb nor ingenious. I am just sharing my observation, on how it looks like in this case.

mmoya 3y ago

https://archive.ph/jvNtQ https://archive.ph/jvNtQ

sylware 3y ago

Please Elon, do it!

jlpcsl 3y ago

Good riddance of a far-right pro-nazi bar

Garvi 3y ago
I never liked Elon, but "far-right pro-nazi bar"? Are you from reddit or did I just miss something?
- adl 3y ago
  He has shared content from far right/pro-Nazi accounts in the past.
  - Garvi 3y ago
    I take it the fact you're not sharing any sources is because your claim is either weak, out of context, or have never checked it yourself. Do we crucify Elon because he agreed on an unrelated topic with a person he did not know was a nazi? So you hate a celebrity for a past time. Do you get confirmation for this kind of behaviour on other websites?
    - snowpid 3y ago
      here you go: https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/wirtschaft/soziale-netzwerke-elon-musk-verbreitet-afd-behauptungen-und-verliert-kunden-was-ist-los-mit-twitter-id68070721.html https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/wirtschaft/soziale-netz...
      - Garvi 3y ago
        No nazis, no far right.. Elon agreeing with a point a conservative politician made makes him a nazi to you. Are you even German? Are you actually familiar with AFDs talking points? I take it you're on team anti-evil and saw the target painted. Elon is an asshole. But the media didn't come after him until he started talking sense on Ukraine. Now every loser with a complex is using it as therapy to badmouth Elon.

fofoz 3y ago

Do it Elon, please do it. I can't wait to reuse a blog aggregator. I so miss the quality of content that was around back then.

gumballindie 3y ago
I’ve setup a dockerised freshrss feed reader on my home server (a tiny core i3) and sub to feeds i care about. Took 10 mins to setup and i live happily since then.
- TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
  I am just using thunderbird to aggregate RSS
self_awareness 3y ago
And what's stopping you now?

coldtea 3y ago

He should do it. Europeans are kids and we like to only be shown safe and official social news, approved by our parents.

fvdessen 3y ago

This would make room for a competing platform

nvm0n2 3y ago

Ugh. I've been saying for years that the EU Commission's approach would eventually lead to stuff like this but nobody was willing to listen. The assumption EU bureaucrats and "EU citizens" make is that there are no limits to the punishment beatings executives will take to avoid bans in large geographical areas. This isn't actually true and has never been true, but for some reason a lot of people are in denial about it. The stream of tech firms giving up on China should have been a wakeup call, the way new products like Bard and Threads launched with EU blocks in place from day one should have been another. The EU is barrelling head first towards being a tech backwater. Unlike China it probably isn't going to implement internet censorship muscular enough to stimulate a set of competent home grown competitors; the Commission always likes to make other people do its dirty work so they'll expect the products themselves to do blocks but the incentives to make those blocks stick aren't really there beyond tickbox compliance. People stuck in member states will just use VPNs or other workarounds, and nobody will pony up the sums needed to build genuine competitors. In turn this means that the EU won't develop home grown replacements to unavailable services or any of the other products people already use, because it's just far too risky to invest the huge sums required when at any moment the Commission might arbitrarily change its mind (something it does regularly) or your target market just gets used to convoluted workarounds. IMPORTANT: To all US tech firm employees reading this. Please remember that not everywhere in Europe is in the EU. The UK, Switzerland, Norway, Ukraine, Serbia, Iceland, Lichtenstein and a whole host of smaller countries are not. Over-blocking is already a big problem for people living in these countries due to things like the GDPR.

bolobo 3y ago
> The assumption EU bureaucrats and "EU citizens" make is that there are no limits to the punishment beatings executives will take to avoid bans in large geographical areas I am sorry but what makes you believe that the EU citizen and bureaucrats really want twitter that much? It's not power, water, or food production? It's just a website... If twitter disappeared, the next day something would take its place in the EU. If a foreign company don't want to accept the laws of a country, they can leave, that's fine. I mean, I am sure that the bureaucrats would like nothing more than having a EU company taking over.
oulu2006 3y ago

Dudester230602 3y ago

EU should strongly consider allocating some funds to speed the process up.

bell-cot 3y ago

Interesting how the article kinda meanders between not-quite-saying that Elan is doing manly brinkmanship and is ready to make a rational business decision, and not-quite-saying that Elan is the dysfunctional captain of a soon-to-be shipwreck.

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JodieBenitez 3y ago

Oh no :-( Anyway...