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>” How do you plan to compensate content creators on Peertube?” This task falls on the creators, not the viewers. There are already several options such as spo

>” How do you plan to compensate content creators on Peertube?” This task falls on the creators, not the viewers. There are already several options such as sponsorship, merchandise, patreon, asking for donations, et cetera.

phantomathkg 3y ago
But for sponsorship, aren't people using sponsorblock as well?
mvdtnz 3y ago
Other options include Youtube Premium and Youtube ad views, both of which turn out to be far more reliable sources of income.
- eska 3y ago
  I watched a couple of guides by rich streamers, and they consistently point out that the unofficial means make them the most money.
  - mvdtnz 3y ago
    When they're very big, yes. Mid size and small channels, I doubt it.
    - zmgsabst 3y ago
      Small channels make their money from super chats — a handful of $20 super chats will outweigh your ads until moderately large.
    - eska 3y ago
      I don’t know about YouTube premium, but regarding twitch partnership they said that only the top streamers get good deals, but even then they are problematic because they require exclusivity.
- toastercat 3y ago
  Yeah, but then you're giving money to Google. Better to pay the creators directly.
- shiroiuma 3y ago
  No, they aren't. Many creators are "demonetized", and if you ask the ones who aren't, they'll tell you they barely make anything from YouTube itself. They get all their money from other sources: Patreon, merchandise sales, sponsor segments, etc.
  - judge2020 3y ago
    YouTube Premium pays out even on demonetized videos. And Premium watch time pays out a lot more https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1486935690315112455?s=20 https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1486935690315112455?s=20
judge2020 3y ago
Take an organization like Linus Media Group/Linus Tech Tips. He shared his earnings from Ads here[0] and a breakdown of revenue here[1] - it's 2021 vs 2022 revenue, but it should be fairly close. 18% of revenue being sourced from YouTube ads doesn't sound like much, but extrapolated from $4.6M over 9 months to a year is ~6M in ad revenue, out of a total of >$33M from all sources. It's not as simple as "flicking a switch" to replace that revenue with $3M of extra in-video sponsorships (those are already being bid on at market price, and they're in as many places in the video as the viewers will handle) and/or $3M of extra merchandise revenue, for example. And no creator does good by asking for direct donations. Only patreon/a way to pay for early access to content does anything for revenue, and this is not scalable since the vast majority of <every> channel's viewers only watch it when it's conveniently shown to them via their recommended videos/subscriptions tab. 0: https://x.com/linusgsebastian/status/1609468262219403264?s=20 https://x.com/linusgsebastian/status/1609468262219403264?s=2... 1: https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515?s=20 https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515?s=20

phantomathkg 3y ago

But for sponsorship, aren't people using sponsorblock as well?

mvdtnz 3y ago

Other options include Youtube Premium and Youtube ad views, both of which turn out to be far more reliable sources of income.

eska 3y ago
I watched a couple of guides by rich streamers, and they consistently point out that the unofficial means make them the most money.
- mvdtnz 3y ago
  When they're very big, yes. Mid size and small channels, I doubt it.
  - zmgsabst 3y ago
    Small channels make their money from super chats — a handful of $20 super chats will outweigh your ads until moderately large.
  - eska 3y ago
    I don’t know about YouTube premium, but regarding twitch partnership they said that only the top streamers get good deals, but even then they are problematic because they require exclusivity.
toastercat 3y ago
Yeah, but then you're giving money to Google. Better to pay the creators directly.
shiroiuma 3y ago
No, they aren't. Many creators are "demonetized", and if you ask the ones who aren't, they'll tell you they barely make anything from YouTube itself. They get all their money from other sources: Patreon, merchandise sales, sponsor segments, etc.
- judge2020 3y ago
  YouTube Premium pays out even on demonetized videos. And Premium watch time pays out a lot more https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1486935690315112455?s=20 https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1486935690315112455?s=20

judge2020 3y ago

Take an organization like Linus Media Group/Linus Tech Tips. He shared his earnings from Ads here[0] and a breakdown of revenue here[1] - it's 2021 vs 2022 revenue, but it should be fairly close. 18% of revenue being sourced from YouTube ads doesn't sound like much, but extrapolated from $4.6M over 9 months to a year is ~6M in ad revenue, out of a total of >$33M from all sources. It's not as simple as "flicking a switch" to replace that revenue with $3M of extra in-video sponsorships (those are already being bid on at market price, and they're in as many places in the video as the viewers will handle) and/or $3M of extra merchandise revenue, for example. And no creator does good by asking for direct donations. Only patreon/a way to pay for early access to content does anything for revenue, and this is not scalable since the vast majority of <every> channel's viewers only watch it when it's conveniently shown to them via their recommended videos/subscriptions tab. 0: https://x.com/linusgsebastian/status/1609468262219403264?s=20 https://x.com/linusgsebastian/status/1609468262219403264?s=2... 1: https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515?s=20 https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515?s=20