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Legacy auto gave up their UI to Google and Apple, they gave up a lot of value. Top tier new auto EV companies are going their own way, Tesla and Rivian have ver

by rnk 3y ago

Legacy auto gave up their UI to Google and Apple, they gave up a lot of value. Top tier new auto EV companies are going their own way, Tesla and Rivian have very high quality UIs. Tesla does a little better, rivian is catching up.

troupo 3y ago
> Legacy auto gave up their UI to Google and Apple, they gave up a lot of value Define "value".
- local_crmdgeon 3y ago
  Opportunities to charge + advertise to you, while providing a worse service.
  - rnk 3y ago
    I disagree about worse service. I really love the ui on tesla and rivian. When I've had rental cars with carplay or aa it's been fine. The latter two mobile apps have also added more 3rd party streaming services. Tesla & rivian had added things too.
    - troupo 3y ago
      Every time Tesla updates their UI there's no end of complaints about random changes or how oft-used functionality is now moved to obscure menus behind small tap targets.
      - dzhiurgis 3y ago
        AFAIK Tesla only had 1 major UI update during past decade
        troupo 3y ago
        The question isn't about major UI updates. See, for example, this: https://www.thedrive.com/tech/43710/teslas-v11-update-blasted-for-hiding-things-like-defroster-button-in-pointless-menus https://www.thedrive.com/tech/43710/teslas-v11-update-blaste...
darknavi 3y ago
+1 I'll say that CarPlay would be nice but Tesla maps are very polished and some of the gestures and interactions I have are a lot nicer than when I am forced to use CarPlay. Maybe it's just the cars I have used it in, but no pinch and zoom for maps in CarPlay. Seriously???
- amluto 3y ago
  The Tesla routing quality seems to have regressed quite badly lately, to the point that, if the route is at all interesting, I’ll get directions from a different provider.
- dzhiurgis 3y ago
  Lack of pinch and zoom is bonkers. Also it doesn't connect reliably and you can't use Maps on your phone while simultaneously being used for navigation. Overall, asides from Siri, CarPlay is behind Tesla.

by rnk 3y ago

troupo 3y ago

> Legacy auto gave up their UI to Google and Apple, they gave up a lot of value Define "value".

local_crmdgeon 3y ago
Opportunities to charge + advertise to you, while providing a worse service.
- rnk 3y ago
  I disagree about worse service. I really love the ui on tesla and rivian. When I've had rental cars with carplay or aa it's been fine. The latter two mobile apps have also added more 3rd party streaming services. Tesla & rivian had added things too.
  - troupo 3y ago
    Every time Tesla updates their UI there's no end of complaints about random changes or how oft-used functionality is now moved to obscure menus behind small tap targets.
    - dzhiurgis 3y ago
      AFAIK Tesla only had 1 major UI update during past decade
      - troupo 3y ago
        The question isn't about major UI updates. See, for example, this: https://www.thedrive.com/tech/43710/teslas-v11-update-blasted-for-hiding-things-like-defroster-button-in-pointless-menus https://www.thedrive.com/tech/43710/teslas-v11-update-blaste...

darknavi 3y ago

+1 I'll say that CarPlay would be nice but Tesla maps are very polished and some of the gestures and interactions I have are a lot nicer than when I am forced to use CarPlay. Maybe it's just the cars I have used it in, but no pinch and zoom for maps in CarPlay. Seriously???

amluto 3y ago
The Tesla routing quality seems to have regressed quite badly lately, to the point that, if the route is at all interesting, I’ll get directions from a different provider.
dzhiurgis 3y ago
Lack of pinch and zoom is bonkers. Also it doesn't connect reliably and you can't use Maps on your phone while simultaneously being used for navigation. Overall, asides from Siri, CarPlay is behind Tesla.