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> It’s not like the police got access to all of the users browsing history, Police then get warrants for users' electronic devices when they're under investiga

> It’s not like the police got access to all of the users browsing history, Police then get warrants for users' electronic devices when they're under investigation because they're on that list, so the police get more than access to users' browsing history. > they just got a list of IP address who had been casing the joint. Or they got a list of completely innocent people who made deliveries, live nearby, etc, who are now treated as suspects for arson and murder they didn't commit.

tiahura 3y ago
Police then get warrants for users' electronic devices But that’s not what happened. I don’t practice in Colorado, but my guess is that a judge would deny such a warrant without something more, e.g. the person has a prior conviction for arson, or there’s a personal connection with the victims. If you’re just the Amazon delivery guy, I don’t see it happening.
- singleshot_ 3y ago
  You misunderstood how and when the warrant was issued. “The person” who you are assuming must have had some other incriminating evidence against him was not even identified until after the warrant was executed.
- heavyset_go 3y ago
  I don't have that confidence. Judges and grand juries grant warrants based on the beliefs, strong feelings and lies/embellishments of law enforcement too regularly. > my guess is that a judge would deny such a warrant without something more, e.g. the person has a prior conviction for arson, or there’s a personal connection with the victims. Or they're the wrong religion, race, nationality, seem "suspicious", know/related to felons, don't belong to the good ol' boys club, etc.
- oxygen_crisis 3y ago
  > But that’s not what happened. That definitely happened. 98. Law enforcement also served an additional warrant on Google for the account information belonging to E.M. There was no connection between Mr. Seymour, Mr. Bui, D.S., and E.M., except that E.M. searched for the address of the fire within the specified time frame. As a result, law enforcement obtained E.M.’s entire Google history, including all of her location history and search history, but did not find any connection to the fire. https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/343f777f-46d4-4c04-b85a-26b34908f544/Seymour-rule-21-petition.pdf https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/343f777f-46d4-4c04-b85a-...

tiahura 3y ago

Police then get warrants for users' electronic devices But that’s not what happened. I don’t practice in Colorado, but my guess is that a judge would deny such a warrant without something more, e.g. the person has a prior conviction for arson, or there’s a personal connection with the victims. If you’re just the Amazon delivery guy, I don’t see it happening.

singleshot_ 3y ago
You misunderstood how and when the warrant was issued. “The person” who you are assuming must have had some other incriminating evidence against him was not even identified until after the warrant was executed.
heavyset_go 3y ago
I don't have that confidence. Judges and grand juries grant warrants based on the beliefs, strong feelings and lies/embellishments of law enforcement too regularly. > my guess is that a judge would deny such a warrant without something more, e.g. the person has a prior conviction for arson, or there’s a personal connection with the victims. Or they're the wrong religion, race, nationality, seem "suspicious", know/related to felons, don't belong to the good ol' boys club, etc.
oxygen_crisis 3y ago
> But that’s not what happened. That definitely happened. 98. Law enforcement also served an additional warrant on Google for the account information belonging to E.M. There was no connection between Mr. Seymour, Mr. Bui, D.S., and E.M., except that E.M. searched for the address of the fire within the specified time frame. As a result, law enforcement obtained E.M.’s entire Google history, including all of her location history and search history, but did not find any connection to the fire. https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/343f777f-46d4-4c04-b85a-26b34908f544/Seymour-rule-21-petition.pdf https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/343f777f-46d4-4c04-b85a-...