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We’ve switched from aiming to get a Tesla to just a Mazda PHEV instead, mainly because my wife doesn’t want to bankroll anymore Elon behaviour. Wouldn’t surpris

We’ve switched from aiming to get a Tesla to just a Mazda PHEV instead, mainly because my wife doesn’t want to bankroll anymore Elon behaviour. Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a few conversations like that around the dinner table these days.

gwicks56 3y ago
Similar. Waited ages in Australia for the Y to arrive, then Elon went nuts, then real competition started to arrive. Everything from Audi to BYD here now, some even have buttons where buttons make UX sense.
- andrewinardeer 3y ago
  An electric Audi in Australia has an entry level 2022 sedan model price of AUD157,000 is hardly "real competition". A Model 3 2023 Tesla entry level 2023 has a price of $61,000. BYD Atto3, sure. Entry level order price is AUD48,011. But if one is so sensitive and basing purchasing options on an American billionaire's behaviour then surely you would also take into consideration that purchasing a BYD is financing multiple multi-millionaires who are members of, and have close ties to, the human rights abusing and despotically led CCP. Which one is the lesser evil here? * https://www.carsguide.com.au/audi/e-tron https://www.carsguide.com.au/audi/e-tron * https://www.tesla.com/en_au/model3/design#overview https://www.tesla.com/en_au/model3/design#overview * https://bydautomotive.com.au/atto-3 https://bydautomotive.com.au/atto-3
  - abenga 3y ago
    If you tie your company to the your identity person as tightly as Musk has done, you shouldn't be surprised when people make purchasing decisions based on the political and social views you espouse so loudly. Nobody knows who BYD's leadership is unless they look really hard.
    - somsak2 3y ago
      so lack of awareness makes support of that behavior more acceptable?
      - johneth 3y ago
        It's the opposite, surely – awareness makes support of that behaviour unacceptable.
mensetmanusman 3y ago
Burning gasoline to thwart a billionaire.
- ryandvm 3y ago
  Buying an 8000 pound electric truck to avoid burning gasoline.
- antifa 3y ago
  TIL no one else sells electric vehicles?
foogazi 3y ago
I’m not getting one, but I would like access to the Tesla charging network
lexandstuff 3y ago
Yep. That's us, too. We had been planning to get a Tesla for many years but wouldn't be caught dead in one now.
- misiti3780 3y ago
  Sorry, why wont you get caught dead driving one?
  - tstrimple 3y ago
    It’s not legal to drive while dead. It’s best not to get caught.
    - fragmede 3y ago
      That seems like one of those "there's no rule about a dog playing basketball" Air Bud things - unless you can cite a specific law, I don't believe it's actually on the books as being illegal. Also not something I'd recommend, but I'd be very surprised to see a law specifically banning it.
      - gingerrr 3y ago
        It's illegal to drive without a license, but your license doesn't automatically get suspended/canceled when you die - a loved one has to do the legwork to cancel it. So probably technically legal until a court case involving someone declared legally dead who's just driving around somewhere?
    - lexandstuff 3y ago
      What are they gonna do if they catch me - put me away for life?
- fallingknife 3y ago
  You wouldn't drive a car because you're worried about what other people may think of you because they don't like the CEO of the company that made the car that they see you driving in?
paulddraper 3y ago
Cult of personality is real
7e 3y ago
You also don’t want to drive a car designed by someone who is off their rocker, for safety and reliability reasons.
- madengr 3y ago
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tail_exchange 3y ago
I can't think of someone who, for a lot of people, went from hero to villain faster than Elon. I also dreamed of having a Tesla in the past, but the magic is now gone, and I can't stomach the thought of giving him money.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
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- chomp5977 3y ago
  I bought one before all his shenanigans and I regret it. I went from loving the car to feeling pretty gross about it in the course of like 3 weeks.

gwicks56 3y ago

Similar. Waited ages in Australia for the Y to arrive, then Elon went nuts, then real competition started to arrive. Everything from Audi to BYD here now, some even have buttons where buttons make UX sense.

andrewinardeer 3y ago
An electric Audi in Australia has an entry level 2022 sedan model price of AUD157,000 is hardly "real competition". A Model 3 2023 Tesla entry level 2023 has a price of $61,000. BYD Atto3, sure. Entry level order price is AUD48,011. But if one is so sensitive and basing purchasing options on an American billionaire's behaviour then surely you would also take into consideration that purchasing a BYD is financing multiple multi-millionaires who are members of, and have close ties to, the human rights abusing and despotically led CCP. Which one is the lesser evil here? * https://www.carsguide.com.au/audi/e-tron https://www.carsguide.com.au/audi/e-tron * https://www.tesla.com/en_au/model3/design#overview https://www.tesla.com/en_au/model3/design#overview * https://bydautomotive.com.au/atto-3 https://bydautomotive.com.au/atto-3
- abenga 3y ago
  If you tie your company to the your identity person as tightly as Musk has done, you shouldn't be surprised when people make purchasing decisions based on the political and social views you espouse so loudly. Nobody knows who BYD's leadership is unless they look really hard.
  - somsak2 3y ago
    so lack of awareness makes support of that behavior more acceptable?
    - johneth 3y ago
      It's the opposite, surely – awareness makes support of that behaviour unacceptable.

mensetmanusman 3y ago

Burning gasoline to thwart a billionaire.

ryandvm 3y ago
Buying an 8000 pound electric truck to avoid burning gasoline.
antifa 3y ago
TIL no one else sells electric vehicles?

foogazi 3y ago

I’m not getting one, but I would like access to the Tesla charging network

lexandstuff 3y ago

Yep. That's us, too. We had been planning to get a Tesla for many years but wouldn't be caught dead in one now.

misiti3780 3y ago
Sorry, why wont you get caught dead driving one?
- tstrimple 3y ago
  It’s not legal to drive while dead. It’s best not to get caught.
  - fragmede 3y ago
    That seems like one of those "there's no rule about a dog playing basketball" Air Bud things - unless you can cite a specific law, I don't believe it's actually on the books as being illegal. Also not something I'd recommend, but I'd be very surprised to see a law specifically banning it.
    - gingerrr 3y ago
      It's illegal to drive without a license, but your license doesn't automatically get suspended/canceled when you die - a loved one has to do the legwork to cancel it. So probably technically legal until a court case involving someone declared legally dead who's just driving around somewhere?
  - lexandstuff 3y ago
    What are they gonna do if they catch me - put me away for life?
fallingknife 3y ago
You wouldn't drive a car because you're worried about what other people may think of you because they don't like the CEO of the company that made the car that they see you driving in?

paulddraper 3y ago

Cult of personality is real

7e 3y ago

You also don’t want to drive a car designed by someone who is off their rocker, for safety and reliability reasons.

madengr 3y ago
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tail_exchange 3y ago

I can't think of someone who, for a lot of people, went from hero to villain faster than Elon. I also dreamed of having a Tesla in the past, but the magic is now gone, and I can't stomach the thought of giving him money.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
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chomp5977 3y ago
I bought one before all his shenanigans and I regret it. I went from loving the car to feeling pretty gross about it in the course of like 3 weeks.