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> It continues to fascinate me that people have already forgotten, or never heard, the stories of the foundations of the country. You can't transpose the conte

> It continues to fascinate me that people have already forgotten, or never heard, the stories of the foundations of the country. You can't transpose the context of colonial america to contemporary life. Even nearly 200 year old inventions like the gatling gun, professional policing, penny press, telegraph and car dilute the predictive power of conflict analysis of the 1700s to apply it to the 21st century. Yet alone say, apache helicopters and SAMs. > And what was one of their first actions in response? Go take the plebs' guns. The volumes that chronicle these histories are deeply ahistorical. Every one I've seen is actually about arming favored groups and disarming unfavored ones. It's not about taking away guns, it's about making them plentiful for a group driven by fear and anger and making them scarce for the designated scapegoat. Unless you think AR-15s and ammunition for homeless, pedophiles, illegal immigrants, and woke mobs is part of your strategy, you are in effect, doing exactly what you are accusing these other societies of doing because you are inherently carving out a group that should and a group that should not have access to guns - which is precisely what all those historical groups did.

seanw444 3y ago
> Unless you think AR-15s and ammunition for homeless, pedophiles, illegal immigrants, and woke mobs is part of your strategy, you are in effect, doing exactly what you are accusing these other societies of doing because you are inherently carving out a group that should and a group that should not have access to guns - which is precisely what all those historical groups did. If you're a US citizen, you have a right to keep and bear arms. That is my only "carve out". Homeless, poor, gay, vegan, etc. all count. Yes, illegal immigrants are a carve out. They are not US citizens, and they therefore don't enjoy full protection of the law here. Well, shouldn't. Get your citizenship and I don't care anymore. This used to be a given before the globalist agenda.
- kristopolous 3y ago
  > They are not US citizens, and they therefore don't enjoy full protection of the law here. Well, shouldn't. Get your citizenship and I don't care anymore. This used to be a given before the globalist agenda. Right. For the Nazis, the often go-to for the gun grabbing argument, this was the reich citizenship law of 1935. By clamping down on citizenship definitions and who's allowed to have papers, they did the carve out That's the exact strategy they took - right to bear arms was reserved for reich citizens.

seanw444 3y ago

> Unless you think AR-15s and ammunition for homeless, pedophiles, illegal immigrants, and woke mobs is part of your strategy, you are in effect, doing exactly what you are accusing these other societies of doing because you are inherently carving out a group that should and a group that should not have access to guns - which is precisely what all those historical groups did. If you're a US citizen, you have a right to keep and bear arms. That is my only "carve out". Homeless, poor, gay, vegan, etc. all count. Yes, illegal immigrants are a carve out. They are not US citizens, and they therefore don't enjoy full protection of the law here. Well, shouldn't. Get your citizenship and I don't care anymore. This used to be a given before the globalist agenda.

kristopolous 3y ago
> They are not US citizens, and they therefore don't enjoy full protection of the law here. Well, shouldn't. Get your citizenship and I don't care anymore. This used to be a given before the globalist agenda. Right. For the Nazis, the often go-to for the gun grabbing argument, this was the reich citizenship law of 1935. By clamping down on citizenship definitions and who's allowed to have papers, they did the carve out That's the exact strategy they took - right to bear arms was reserved for reich citizens.