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When atheles start collapsing of heart-failure on the track, then what?

FigurativeVoid 3y ago
This is a conversation I've had before as well. It's not like PEDs are a free ticket to bonus athleticism. They come with huge costs.
spydum 3y ago
this is a risk even without PEDs though, right?
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- DaiPlusPlus 3y ago
  If the health-risks were the same (and they aren’t) I don’t think we’d be complaining as much. We don’t want to encourage people compromising their health like this; but it’s not the elite-athletes I’m worried about, but their millions of followers - think: kids doing high-school athletics - or people who are inspired by major sporting events to start doing exercise - it benefits no-one by implicitly encouraging everyone to do sports PEDs. IMB4 anyone suggests that a Vyvanse prescription is equivalent to sports PEDs, despite both being significant risks to heart-health.
eikenberry 3y ago
They lose the race and people will take that into account and try not to reproduce those results. It would balance out over time. There'd always be more than other sports, but sports doing bad things to their participants isn't unique. People are completely fine with the brain damage caused by sports like (US) football or boxing for example.
- aeturnum 3y ago
  > People are completely fine with the brain damage caused by sports like (US) football This is totally untrue. Football is currently in decline, with the greatest drop in youth participation[1]. A major factor seems to be the NFL's inability to keep the stories of brain damage quiet. These things take time but I think there's a good chance the brain damage is going to kill football as a popular sport. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2020/01/28/the-decline-of-football-is-real-and-its-accelerating/?sh=1b46578a2f37 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2020/01/28/the-decl...

This is a conversation I've had before as well. It's not like PEDs are a free ticket to bonus athleticism. They come with huge costs.

spydum 3y ago

this is a risk even without PEDs though, right?

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DaiPlusPlus 3y ago
If the health-risks were the same (and they aren’t) I don’t think we’d be complaining as much. We don’t want to encourage people compromising their health like this; but it’s not the elite-athletes I’m worried about, but their millions of followers - think: kids doing high-school athletics - or people who are inspired by major sporting events to start doing exercise - it benefits no-one by implicitly encouraging everyone to do sports PEDs. IMB4 anyone suggests that a Vyvanse prescription is equivalent to sports PEDs, despite both being significant risks to heart-health.

eikenberry 3y ago

They lose the race and people will take that into account and try not to reproduce those results. It would balance out over time. There'd always be more than other sports, but sports doing bad things to their participants isn't unique. People are completely fine with the brain damage caused by sports like (US) football or boxing for example.

aeturnum 3y ago
> People are completely fine with the brain damage caused by sports like (US) football This is totally untrue. Football is currently in decline, with the greatest drop in youth participation[1]. A major factor seems to be the NFL's inability to keep the stories of brain damage quiet. These things take time but I think there's a good chance the brain damage is going to kill football as a popular sport. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2020/01/28/the-decline-of-football-is-real-and-its-accelerating/?sh=1b46578a2f37 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2020/01/28/the-decl...