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Having more grads coming out of university unprepared and expecting even more handholding (this time in the form of devcontainers in the cloud preconfigured and
by zo1 3y ago
Having more grads coming out of university unprepared and expecting even more handholding (this time in the form of devcontainers in the cloud preconfigured and "ready", etc) really does not bode well for the health of our industry long term.
- hnav 3y agoSounds like normal progress. The bulk of the next generation will operate on a higher level abstraction that affords them more productivity with some of them specializing in the lower level stuff that used to be part and parcel of normal SWE duties but is now basement-dweller neckbeard voodoo. Grandpa complained that nobody knows how to set points ignition and jet the carburetor anymore, dad complains that you can't fix anything anymore, we will complain that kids these days never leave the pod and live in VR.
- withinboredom 3y agoI lived on a boat with a 1972 Atomic 4. I had to set the points and jet the carb every so often. I truly enjoyed working on that thing. My car needed a freaking mechanic with a computer. It was nice to hear it start chugging incorrectly, pop the cover off, measure a few things, then start it back up. No technology required, just well timed explosions.
- ativzzz 3y agoComputer science is not exactly related to googling cryptic error messages, but IMO every undergrad CS major should have a tools/linux basics class of some kind
- navanchauhan 3y agoThe situation is pretty bad. Some students don’t know how to Google properly because they know they can always reach out to TAs/CAs during office hours But at the same time if everyone moves to devcontainers, will this skill even matter for the most part? Because the people who want to learn how to do something are going to do it regardless, and those who don’t might not need to worry about it
- piperswe 3y agoWho sets up the devcontainers?
- syndicatedjelly 3y agoMom
- withinboredom 3y agoYours or mine?
- HDThoreaun 3y agoYes but seems like most companies are moving to this remote dev container environment that you ssh into. Obviously the google skills are still important but there are plenty of other, more interesting, problems you can use to practice that.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y agoI don't think that's even remotely true, I think you're in a bubble.
- mardifoufs 3y agoHow is that different from using shared Unix boxes from back in the day? Using Containers doesn't mean not having access to the file system or console. You basically have the exact same experience as using vscode locally.