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I know we like to get the pitchforks out, but, it appears to be accidental: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/33726 https://github.com/brave/brave-

by mhsdef 3y ago

I know we like to get the pitchforks out, but, it appears to be accidental: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/33726 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/33726

dewey 3y ago
Where does it say that it was an accident?
- contact9879 3y ago
  it's an issue opened by brave's vp noting that the current behaviour should be corrected
  - dewey 3y ago
    That doesn't mean it was an accident, it could just mean that they realized it's a problem. Especially as this issue was opened after this HN submission got posted.
    - gtvwill 3y ago
      They realized they were gonna get bad looks for it so they covered that shiz up as if it were a mistake. Marketing damage control.
    - belthesar 3y ago
      Issue opened 3 hours ago, thread posted 2 hours ago. I look at Brave with skepticism as one should with a company that flirts with crypto, but in giving them a fair shake, it's important to keep the facts straight. That said, in keeping the facts straight, an issue opened a week ago citing this as a problem was closed in favor of the one opened by the Brave VP.
      - MichaelZuo 3y ago
        > That said, in keeping the facts straight, an issue opened a week ago citing this as a problem was closed in favor of the one opened by the Brave VP. That seems somewhat shady, unless there was a credible explanation?
        jukiewalsh 3y ago
        It’s a publicly viewable GitHub issue that people can still navigate to or comment on, it’s not like it was scrubbed. It’s surely a PR move to show they’re on top of it but not anything to read into in my opinion.
        MichaelZuo 3y ago
        'Show they're on top of it' by closing their own employee's report from a week ago without explanation? If anything, by leaving it open that would have advertised how attentive their employees are.
- amoshi 3y ago
  It was unintended. >The ideal situation would be to move these services to be installed when VPN is first USED (post purchase) and not at install time.
gtvwill 3y ago
[flagged]
- alex_lav 3y ago
  > Been a long list of profiteering and generally dubious actions. For the unaware, what are they?
  - gtvwill 3y ago
    Started with inserting their referral links into clicks way back in the early years. https://decrypt.co/31522/crypto-brave-browser-redirect https://decrypt.co/31522/crypto-brave-browser-redirect stuff like this.
  - _lvbh 3y ago
    I uninstalled it after the crypto affiliate thing even though I don’t buy/sell crypto
  - alibert 3y ago
    Most voiced complaints are (as neutral as possible): - past CEO personal belief on LGTB rights - If opted in, blocking ads while showing their own ads as system notification (ads are not being replaced in page) - hijacking typed-in domains in the address bar by adding their affiliate code on select domains related to crypto (reverted after backslash) - Tips (using their crypto coin BAT) to Content Creators not using Brave being held indefinitely until withdrawn by Creator (behavior changed after backslash) and now: - VPN services being installed automatically if browser has admin rights on Windows. Edit: I'm just listing what I have been hearing the most on HN.
    - decremental 3y ago
      [dead]
    - rpmisms 3y ago
      First is irrelevant to whether the product is good, I don't care about purity tests. The rest of the list, minus the end, is them trying to make money without selling data. That actually makes me more confident about their belief in their stated values. Last one is an "accidental" oversight, probably to boost install numbers. They decided to change it without backlash first. Again, good move.
seaman1921 3y ago
sure Brave is a saint, pitchforks only allowed for Google
pseudotrash 3y ago
Nothing is an accident with Brave. You don't go "all in" on crypto unless you're a grifter.
Pat_Murph 3y ago
Nice try Brave.

by mhsdef 3y ago

I know we like to get the pitchforks out, but, it appears to be accidental: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/33726 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/33726

dewey 3y ago

Where does it say that it was an accident?

contact9879 3y ago
it's an issue opened by brave's vp noting that the current behaviour should be corrected
- dewey 3y ago
  That doesn't mean it was an accident, it could just mean that they realized it's a problem. Especially as this issue was opened after this HN submission got posted.
  - gtvwill 3y ago
    They realized they were gonna get bad looks for it so they covered that shiz up as if it were a mistake. Marketing damage control.
  - belthesar 3y ago
    Issue opened 3 hours ago, thread posted 2 hours ago. I look at Brave with skepticism as one should with a company that flirts with crypto, but in giving them a fair shake, it's important to keep the facts straight. That said, in keeping the facts straight, an issue opened a week ago citing this as a problem was closed in favor of the one opened by the Brave VP.
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      > That said, in keeping the facts straight, an issue opened a week ago citing this as a problem was closed in favor of the one opened by the Brave VP. That seems somewhat shady, unless there was a credible explanation?
      - jukiewalsh 3y ago
        It’s a publicly viewable GitHub issue that people can still navigate to or comment on, it’s not like it was scrubbed. It’s surely a PR move to show they’re on top of it but not anything to read into in my opinion.
        MichaelZuo 3y ago
        'Show they're on top of it' by closing their own employee's report from a week ago without explanation? If anything, by leaving it open that would have advertised how attentive their employees are.
amoshi 3y ago
It was unintended. >The ideal situation would be to move these services to be installed when VPN is first USED (post purchase) and not at install time.

gtvwill 3y ago

[flagged]

alex_lav 3y ago
> Been a long list of profiteering and generally dubious actions. For the unaware, what are they?
- gtvwill 3y ago
  Started with inserting their referral links into clicks way back in the early years. https://decrypt.co/31522/crypto-brave-browser-redirect https://decrypt.co/31522/crypto-brave-browser-redirect stuff like this.
- _lvbh 3y ago
  I uninstalled it after the crypto affiliate thing even though I don’t buy/sell crypto
- alibert 3y ago
  Most voiced complaints are (as neutral as possible): - past CEO personal belief on LGTB rights - If opted in, blocking ads while showing their own ads as system notification (ads are not being replaced in page) - hijacking typed-in domains in the address bar by adding their affiliate code on select domains related to crypto (reverted after backslash) - Tips (using their crypto coin BAT) to Content Creators not using Brave being held indefinitely until withdrawn by Creator (behavior changed after backslash) and now: - VPN services being installed automatically if browser has admin rights on Windows. Edit: I'm just listing what I have been hearing the most on HN.
  - decremental 3y ago
    [dead]
  - rpmisms 3y ago
    First is irrelevant to whether the product is good, I don't care about purity tests. The rest of the list, minus the end, is them trying to make money without selling data. That actually makes me more confident about their belief in their stated values. Last one is an "accidental" oversight, probably to boost install numbers. They decided to change it without backlash first. Again, good move.

seaman1921 3y ago

sure Brave is a saint, pitchforks only allowed for Google

pseudotrash 3y ago

Nothing is an accident with Brave. You don't go "all in" on crypto unless you're a grifter.

Pat_Murph 3y ago

Nice try Brave.