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Why so quick to blame this on old Christian puritanism? Current opposition to AI-generated porn comes also from a school of feminists directly opposed to what y

Why so quick to blame this on old Christian puritanism? Current opposition to AI-generated porn comes also from a school of feminists directly opposed to what you view as traditional Christian puritanism.

smrtinsert 3y ago
Bookmarking for when you provide the relevant statistics
- OfSanguineFire 3y ago
  Your call for “statistics” is snarky inasmuch as I made no claim in my post for which statistics would be relevant. Please don’t do this here. But as far as the existence of feminist opposition to these developments, did you miss the last major HN link about this topic?[0] Zero Christian basis to that woman’s concerns, nor are the women in her comments section agreeing with her out of professed Christian morality. [0] https://www.freyaindia.co.uk/p/we-cant-compete-with-ai-girlfriends https://www.freyaindia.co.uk/p/we-cant-compete-with-ai-girlf...
- gjsman-1000 3y ago
  It's not a fringe thing. Even The New York Times has written about how "sex-positive" feminism is dying; and being replaced with an anti-porn feminism. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/opinion/sex-positivity-feminism.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/opinion/sex-positivity-fe... Quote: In her new book, “The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century,” the philosopher Amia Srinivasan, who is quickly becoming one of the most high-profile feminist thinkers in the English-speaking world, describes teaching Oxford students about second-wave anti-porn activism. She assumes her students, for whom porn is ubiquitous, will “find the anti-porn position prudish and passé.” They do not. Rather, they’re in complete agreement with assertions that could come straight from Andrea Dworkin. “Could it be that pornography doesn’t merely depict the subordination of women, but actually makes it real? I asked. Yes, they said,” writes Srinivasan. She continues, “Does porn bear responsibility for the objectification of women, for the marginalization of women, for sexual violence against women? Yes, they said, yes to all of it.”
kergonath 3y ago
True, some feminist movements became very anti-porn. It’s a fringe of the overall population, though, and they are very far from having the influence conservative and religious fundamentalists have. It’s also a mistake in the long run if you ask me, because this can only lead to more oppression, injustice, and shame. People won’t stop fucking because someone told them to; witness the number of high-profile conservatives having (sometimes homosexual) affairs.
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smrtinsert 3y ago

Bookmarking for when you provide the relevant statistics

OfSanguineFire 3y ago
Your call for “statistics” is snarky inasmuch as I made no claim in my post for which statistics would be relevant. Please don’t do this here. But as far as the existence of feminist opposition to these developments, did you miss the last major HN link about this topic?[0] Zero Christian basis to that woman’s concerns, nor are the women in her comments section agreeing with her out of professed Christian morality. [0] https://www.freyaindia.co.uk/p/we-cant-compete-with-ai-girlfriends https://www.freyaindia.co.uk/p/we-cant-compete-with-ai-girlf...
gjsman-1000 3y ago
It's not a fringe thing. Even The New York Times has written about how "sex-positive" feminism is dying; and being replaced with an anti-porn feminism. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/opinion/sex-positivity-feminism.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/opinion/sex-positivity-fe... Quote: In her new book, “The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century,” the philosopher Amia Srinivasan, who is quickly becoming one of the most high-profile feminist thinkers in the English-speaking world, describes teaching Oxford students about second-wave anti-porn activism. She assumes her students, for whom porn is ubiquitous, will “find the anti-porn position prudish and passé.” They do not. Rather, they’re in complete agreement with assertions that could come straight from Andrea Dworkin. “Could it be that pornography doesn’t merely depict the subordination of women, but actually makes it real? I asked. Yes, they said,” writes Srinivasan. She continues, “Does porn bear responsibility for the objectification of women, for the marginalization of women, for sexual violence against women? Yes, they said, yes to all of it.”

kergonath 3y ago

True, some feminist movements became very anti-porn. It’s a fringe of the overall population, though, and they are very far from having the influence conservative and religious fundamentalists have. It’s also a mistake in the long run if you ask me, because this can only lead to more oppression, injustice, and shame. People won’t stop fucking because someone told them to; witness the number of high-profile conservatives having (sometimes homosexual) affairs.

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