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Not to get all “orientalism” but celebrity scandal is a pretty big deal in Japan and South Korea. It can kill a career quite easy, for (by US standards) innocuo

Not to get all “orientalism” but celebrity scandal is a pretty big deal in Japan and South Korea. It can kill a career quite easy, for (by US standards) innocuous things. Smoking pot, spicy selfies, having a significant other - it’s not uncommon. Japan at least is also fairly receptive to artificial spokespeople, like mascots and avatars. Maybe there’s simply higher demand for this, and turning to AI is a good strategy. (I’m personally bothered by it.)

Rietty 3y ago
I understand the first two, but I could never wrap my head around the "having an SO" is a scandal. Why is that?
- oh_sigh 3y ago
  Mostly for boy/girl - band types, where a major draw for people is "he/she is my future husband/wife, if only we could meet once". So having a SO destroys that connection.
  - TerrifiedMouse 3y ago
    > major draw for people is "he/she is my future husband/wife, if only we could meet once" Even if they are OK with their celebrity getting an SO, they might take issue with who the SO is. Either way, it’s a loss.
- CuriousCosmic 3y ago
  Because they are sold as an innocent sexual icon that is unclaimed and "maybe you the consumer can claim them if you spend enough money on products they support". It's this weird toxic aspect of idol culture that sees the "idol" this way whether they are a man or a woman, and whether they are an actual idol, musician, actor, voice actor, etc. If they are young and are a public face (other than politician but even then...) then odds are they are affected by this culture.
  - rexpop 3y ago
    A disgustingly horrific perversion of the human spirit. We'll look back on these perverted practices as we look back on the flagellants of the 14th century, and the executives responsible should be prosecuted.
    - haektpov 3y ago
      [dead]
- wendyshu 3y ago
  https://youtube.com/watch?v=z7QG9owYEUY https://youtube.com/watch?v=z7QG9owYEUY
- GauntletWizard 3y ago
  There's a class of entertainers in Japan and Korea (and to some extent other asian countries) called "Idols", for whom the appeal is being a simulated SO. The breaking of the illusion when they are revealed to have been "cheating" on you is a cardinal sin in this industry.
- deleted 3y ago
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- anigbrowl 3y ago
  Because brand celebrities' commercial value is in the parasocial relationship that viewers have with them, allowing people to imagine romantic pairings with a person they see on TV or the internet every day while still being at a psychologically safe distance. If the celebrity has a real life boy/girlfriend, then the romantic fantasy is over and so, probably, the consumer brand attachment.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    So doesn't having an AI spokesperson completely kill the chance for romance thus making it a fairly useless mascot ?
  - Yeul 3y ago
    Interesting is that why Americans freaked out over that transsexual influencer from the Budweiser commercial? They were having confusing feelings?
    - anigbrowl 3y ago
      To a large extent. Americans have a lot of opinions about what opinions others should have.

Rietty 3y ago

I understand the first two, but I could never wrap my head around the "having an SO" is a scandal. Why is that?

oh_sigh 3y ago
Mostly for boy/girl - band types, where a major draw for people is "he/she is my future husband/wife, if only we could meet once". So having a SO destroys that connection.
- TerrifiedMouse 3y ago
  > major draw for people is "he/she is my future husband/wife, if only we could meet once" Even if they are OK with their celebrity getting an SO, they might take issue with who the SO is. Either way, it’s a loss.
CuriousCosmic 3y ago
Because they are sold as an innocent sexual icon that is unclaimed and "maybe you the consumer can claim them if you spend enough money on products they support". It's this weird toxic aspect of idol culture that sees the "idol" this way whether they are a man or a woman, and whether they are an actual idol, musician, actor, voice actor, etc. If they are young and are a public face (other than politician but even then...) then odds are they are affected by this culture.
- rexpop 3y ago
  A disgustingly horrific perversion of the human spirit. We'll look back on these perverted practices as we look back on the flagellants of the 14th century, and the executives responsible should be prosecuted.
  - haektpov 3y ago
    [dead]
wendyshu 3y ago
https://youtube.com/watch?v=z7QG9owYEUY https://youtube.com/watch?v=z7QG9owYEUY
GauntletWizard 3y ago
There's a class of entertainers in Japan and Korea (and to some extent other asian countries) called "Idols", for whom the appeal is being a simulated SO. The breaking of the illusion when they are revealed to have been "cheating" on you is a cardinal sin in this industry.
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anigbrowl 3y ago
Because brand celebrities' commercial value is in the parasocial relationship that viewers have with them, allowing people to imagine romantic pairings with a person they see on TV or the internet every day while still being at a psychologically safe distance. If the celebrity has a real life boy/girlfriend, then the romantic fantasy is over and so, probably, the consumer brand attachment.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  So doesn't having an AI spokesperson completely kill the chance for romance thus making it a fairly useless mascot ?
- Yeul 3y ago
  Interesting is that why Americans freaked out over that transsexual influencer from the Budweiser commercial? They were having confusing feelings?
  - anigbrowl 3y ago
    To a large extent. Americans have a lot of opinions about what opinions others should have.