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I don't think you realize that we WANT RiscV to succeed. Stop being so defensive. It really doesn't have a solid ecosystem yet and the ISA is still in its infan

I don't think you realize that we WANT RiscV to succeed. Stop being so defensive. It really doesn't have a solid ecosystem yet and the ISA is still in its infancy. Debug is awful and security is still in rev0.x stage. If you want it to be real, stop playing the internet "i win the argument" game, understand where RISCV is deficient, and use your energy to actually help.

smoldesu 3y ago
I wanted ARM to succeed too. I have the original Rev2 RasPi board sitting 10 feet away from me, for all the good an ARMv6 SOC does me in 2023. Even back at release it was little more than a glorified embedded SOC that could boot Linux for giggles. I'm willing to acknowledge goofy trash for what it is. RISC-V feels like it's coming around to the same track. Much like how Broadcom had to shoulder the software support of the Raspberry Pi, Qualcomm et. al are going to have to do roughly the same thing now. If the support on top of those cores is good enough, it won't really matter who makes the chip (a-la ARM's ecosystem). The current cores are certainly on the simple side, but that's the name of the RISC game. Simply having a capable microcontroller spec is enough to dent ARM's market share.
- ffgjgf1 3y ago
  > have the original Rev2 RasPi board sitting 10 feet away from me, ARM was already a magnitude or two more successful than RISC-V before the first Raspberry Pi even came out.
  - snvzz 3y ago
    It looks unlikely[0]. But if you are still going to make that claim about ARM success in 2000 vs RISC-V now, then better source the data to support it. 0. https://riscv.org/news/2022/07/europe-steps-up-as-risc-v-ships-10bn-cores-nick-flaherty-ee-news-europe/ https://riscv.org/news/2022/07/europe-steps-up-as-risc-v-shi...