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So west is again catching up to the East block? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchevka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchevka https://en.wikipedia.org

So west is again catching up to the East block? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchevka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchevka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_panel_system-building https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_panel_system-building

sdflhasjd 3y ago
Prefab concrete was popular in some areas of western Europe too, but fell out of fashion for housing probably partly because of its association with drab, dull public housing projects.
- lainga 3y ago
  I don't know about you, but I find this one rather charming! Just demonstrates the Plattenbau were a failure of imagination, not materials [] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:19860910310NR_Rostock_N%C3%B6rdliche_Altstadt_Wokrenterstra%C3%9Fe_2.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:19860910310NR_Rostoc...
- Sponge5 3y ago
  It fell out of fashion because the size of rooms in those flats was limited by the size of the biggest panel, which was small indeed. Also, those panels conduct vibrations very effectively.
- LegitShady 3y ago
  It's also not as well sealed as insulated concrete forms where you pour concrete between, because the panels have gaps.
grishka 3y ago
Except Russia seems to have moved on from that. The Soviet panel buildings have a bad reputation in general. Most new apartment buildings I've seen are built out of monolithic concrete (is this the right English name for this technique?) The wiki article isn't exhaustive btw — there exist very common 9-story panel buildings as well. Also taller ones but those are rarer and usually tower-like (as opposed to repeating sections with separate entrances).
- karaterobot 3y ago
  I don't know if it's the word you're looking for, but one word you hear people use for this type of prefab stressed concrete construction (especially evoking the Soviet era) is Panelák. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panel%C3%A1k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panel%C3%A1k
  - grishka 3y ago
    I meant this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast-in-place_concrete https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast-in-place_concrete
throwaway4aday 3y ago
This pretty much sums it up in a darkly hilarious way: > The panel buildings called khrushchevka are found in great numbers all over the former Soviet Union. They were originally considered to be temporary housing until the housing shortage could be alleviated by mature Communism, which would not have any shortages. Khrushchev predicted the achievement of Communism in 20 years (by the 1980s). Later, Leonid Brezhnev promised each family an apartment "with a separate room for each person plus one room extra", but many people continue to live in khrushchevkas today.
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gumballindie 3y ago
Pretty much. Many homes in the uk even meet the quality of the era - flatulate in your upstairs bedroom, it can be heard opposite end of the house downstairs. Some have the audacity to claim east europe has lower quality housing while living in worse quality builds themselves, albeit modern looking and well maintained.

sdflhasjd 3y ago

Prefab concrete was popular in some areas of western Europe too, but fell out of fashion for housing probably partly because of its association with drab, dull public housing projects.

lainga 3y ago
I don't know about you, but I find this one rather charming! Just demonstrates the Plattenbau were a failure of imagination, not materials [] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:19860910310NR_Rostock_N%C3%B6rdliche_Altstadt_Wokrenterstra%C3%9Fe_2.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:19860910310NR_Rostoc...
Sponge5 3y ago
It fell out of fashion because the size of rooms in those flats was limited by the size of the biggest panel, which was small indeed. Also, those panels conduct vibrations very effectively.
LegitShady 3y ago
It's also not as well sealed as insulated concrete forms where you pour concrete between, because the panels have gaps.

grishka 3y ago

Except Russia seems to have moved on from that. The Soviet panel buildings have a bad reputation in general. Most new apartment buildings I've seen are built out of monolithic concrete (is this the right English name for this technique?) The wiki article isn't exhaustive btw — there exist very common 9-story panel buildings as well. Also taller ones but those are rarer and usually tower-like (as opposed to repeating sections with separate entrances).

karaterobot 3y ago
I don't know if it's the word you're looking for, but one word you hear people use for this type of prefab stressed concrete construction (especially evoking the Soviet era) is Panelák. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panel%C3%A1k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panel%C3%A1k
- grishka 3y ago
  I meant this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast-in-place_concrete https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast-in-place_concrete

throwaway4aday 3y ago

This pretty much sums it up in a darkly hilarious way: > The panel buildings called khrushchevka are found in great numbers all over the former Soviet Union. They were originally considered to be temporary housing until the housing shortage could be alleviated by mature Communism, which would not have any shortages. Khrushchev predicted the achievement of Communism in 20 years (by the 1980s). Later, Leonid Brezhnev promised each family an apartment "with a separate room for each person plus one room extra", but many people continue to live in khrushchevkas today.

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gumballindie 3y ago

Pretty much. Many homes in the uk even meet the quality of the era - flatulate in your upstairs bedroom, it can be heard opposite end of the house downstairs. Some have the audacity to claim east europe has lower quality housing while living in worse quality builds themselves, albeit modern looking and well maintained.