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In case you wonder, the scene is not dead. It certainly is not what it was anymore, but there are still many people trying to push the limits on old computers.
by wiz21c 3y ago
In case you wonder, the scene is not dead. It certainly is not what it was anymore, but there are still many people trying to push the limits on old computers.
Some demomakers are also active in the emulation scene.
But in the end, I guess all of that will die with "our" generation. We were born in that golden age and kids today can't live in our past (and that's fortunate!). So our art, emulators, scene will eventually pass away with us.
So don't wait, write that demo while you're still young enough to compete :-) (I did my last production at 49 :-) )
Greetz to Imphobia/ImpactStudios/Cascada/FrenchTouch !
- detaro 3y agoIf by "all of that" you mean people caring about Commodore vs Amiga pissing matches, maybe. But the Demoscene is much more, and that's not tied to your generation. There's demos targeting platforms that have only now existed for a few years.
- fasterik 3y agoMaybe it will live on with the advent of fantasy consoles/computers. PICO-8 and similar systems provide the same kind of time and space limitations as the old systems, which still encourages a certain amount of creativity and ingenuity.
- bitwize 3y agoNot just fantasy consoles -- there are modern retro-specced computers out there like the ZX Spectrum Next, the Commander X16, and the Agon Light that are worth messing around with. Also, there is a demoscene for modern machines; it's just that the challenges are different: produce the most dazzling effects with the least amount of code.
- tsp 3y agoIt’s definitely not dead. Some great demos have been released in recent years in JavaScript / WebGL, e.g. using visual tools like cables. https://cables.gl/ https://cables.gl/
- criddell 3y agoThose are great demos, but does it belong to the demoscene category? The Wikipedia entry on demoscene seems to specify that it's about impressive demos on old computers.
- detaro 3y ago> The Wikipedia entry on demoscene seems to specify that it's about impressive demos on old computers. Where does it specify that? (and if it did, it would be wrong)
- algorias 3y agoThen wikipedia is wrong. The demoscene is in part about pushing the limits of whatever platform you're on. But another way of looking at the scene is as an art movement based around real-time audiovisuals. The latter is of course a much more ambiguous definition, but there's a certain shared spirit and a defined aesthetic that holds across a lot of different hardware, rendering techniques and formats.
- criddell 3y agoAfter reading more about it, I think that describes it well. At one point it seems it was very focused on working on limited hardware but that doesn't appear to be a general overall focus anymore. The old hardware demos still exist but most of the modern demos are about making something cool and fun and the fact that it doesn't push modern hardware at all is irrelevant.
- yafbum 3y agoWithout the hardware limitations, is that different from just making videos?
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- shultays 3y agoI would say it is "transformed" https://www.shadertoy.com/ https://www.shadertoy.com/
- effekt 3y agoI suspect you're aware, but leaving this for the hackernews crowd that might not be: Shadertoy was in fact made by sceners for sceners. Inigo Quilez is iq/Rgba[1] who released it as a tool for the scene to use[2] back in 2009 1. https://www.pouet.net/user.php?who=4063 https://www.pouet.net/user.php?who=4063 2. https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=54180 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=54180
- aquova 3y agoThe Pico-8 scene has a number of demoscene artists. Here's some examples picked randomly from the "featured" category. - https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=66745#p https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=66745#p - https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=99910#p https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=99910#p - https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=115136#p https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=115136#p - https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=108652#p https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=108652#p
- gaudystead 3y agoFor what it's worth, I'm on the younger side of things and the demo scene is something I still greatly admire. It's an integral part of so many technologies we use today, and although I may not be good enough to participate, it's one of the first things I mention when talking about how pirating ended up producing some positive things for society. :)
- wiz21c 3y ago> I may not be good enough to participate That's what we all felt when it started. Just try and try again, you'll learn, you'll meet great people and in the end, you'll shine :-)