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https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/bretagne/finistere/justice-ils-ont-6-mois-pour-detruire-leur-maison-en-terre-et-en-paille-2847728.html https://france3-r

by dgan 3y ago

https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/bretagne/finistere/justice-ils-ont-6-mois-pour-detruire-leur-maison-en-terre-et-en-paille-2847728.html https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/bretagne/finistere/j... Well, isn't "following construction rules" basically means "use concrete and established plans"? I hope i am wrong, but sounds like it's just impossible to satisfy regulations while building something from dirt and grass

cvccvroomvroom 3y ago
It's likely impossible without serious processing like fire and reinforcement and static and dynamic simulation. Build things that use materials that aren't fire hazards and have been engineered to support themselves and the stresses they should survive are the primary imperatives of residential construction. The only reason the house I escaped a 2018 firestorm survived was that it was built to code. And the reason the house I was in in 1989 didn't collapse from a massive earthquake was it was also built to code. DIY lacking principles and conventions of civil engineering aren't cool, they're stupid for playing Russian roulette presuming they "know better". There are plenty of nontraditional housing projects that still follow sensible engineering principles.
seszett 3y ago
It's a Natura2000 zone, they did build illegally without a permit in the first place, and argue that a retroactive permit could be given because of the small footprint. Two tribunals at two different levels (additional authorities separate from the mayor) judged that they were wrong. I would argue that you did not explain the actual situation honestly. > Well, isn't "following construction rules" basically means "use concrete and established plans"? It does mean that you need to submit plans beforehand. Concrete is absolutely not a hard requirement in France. But building in a natural protected zone without a permit is asking for trouble. Maybe a small wooden shed would have been ok.

by dgan 3y ago

cvccvroomvroom 3y ago

It's likely impossible without serious processing like fire and reinforcement and static and dynamic simulation. Build things that use materials that aren't fire hazards and have been engineered to support themselves and the stresses they should survive are the primary imperatives of residential construction. The only reason the house I escaped a 2018 firestorm survived was that it was built to code. And the reason the house I was in in 1989 didn't collapse from a massive earthquake was it was also built to code. DIY lacking principles and conventions of civil engineering aren't cool, they're stupid for playing Russian roulette presuming they "know better". There are plenty of nontraditional housing projects that still follow sensible engineering principles.

seszett 3y ago

It's a Natura2000 zone, they did build illegally without a permit in the first place, and argue that a retroactive permit could be given because of the small footprint. Two tribunals at two different levels (additional authorities separate from the mayor) judged that they were wrong. I would argue that you did not explain the actual situation honestly. > Well, isn't "following construction rules" basically means "use concrete and established plans"? It does mean that you need to submit plans beforehand. Concrete is absolutely not a hard requirement in France. But building in a natural protected zone without a permit is asking for trouble. Maybe a small wooden shed would have been ok.