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Taking this back in time a bit, the idea that you would monitor everybody's letters and where they go would never be allowed. Because the monitoring is out of
by nodata 15y ago
Taking this back in time a bit, the idea that you would monitor everybody's letters and where they go would never be allowed.
Because the monitoring is out of site, and cheap in terms of man power, now it's allowed.
I really find it amazing.
- mseebach 15y agoNo, this was always accepted in times of war. The notion we have to fight is that of perpetually being at war (terrorists! child pornographers! pirates!).
- DanBC 15y agoECHELON is pretty old and is much worse than current suggested laws. ECHELON looked at content, not just destination.
- weavejester 15y agoIt's worth pointing out that this law would allow monitoring of communications with a warrant. The idea that communications can be monitored with oversight is not a new one. Law enforcement departments have been able to tap phones with a warrant for decades. Edit: Hm, the article is actually a little unclear on whether or not a warrant is needed. At the top it says it is, and then in the middle it quotes a bunch of people saying it isn't...
- kamjam 15y agoIt would also reportedly allow intelligence officers to access emails, calls and texts as they happen, without a warrant, rather than retrospectively. I think previously they could only start monitoring after a court order had been granted (same as listening in on your phone calls) whereas now they record everything and (presume) would have historical access once the court order had been granted...
- rlpb 15y agoThey're saying that the contents will be only accessible with a warrant, but metadata will be accessible without a warrant.
- weavejester 15y agoAh, I see. I stand corrected. That really is pretty bad.
- kamjam 15y agoHome Secretary Theresa May has said the move will help bring "criminals, paedophiles and terrorists" to justice. However, the home secretary told the Sun that "ordinary people" would have nothing to fear from the government's plans. I think those 2 quotes sum it up really. And they say the Arab nations are oppressive... I can't believe the kind of morons we have running this country for us, but certainly explains when we're in such a financial sh!t.