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I mean the time to be upset about being recorded in public was before nearly every square inch of (populated) western civilization had a security camera pointed

I mean the time to be upset about being recorded in public was before nearly every square inch of (populated) western civilization had a security camera pointed at it. You can go to pretty much any random place in any major US city and would be able to find a camera recording you. Until we agree to start tearing that all that down I'm not sure what the point of being upset about this is.

danhon 3y ago
Yes, and the next best time is now.
nmfisher 3y ago
I live in Singapore, which probably has the most CCTV coverage of any country in the world. When I was younger, I would (and did) take issue with omnipresent government surveillance, but now I don't really care as much. That being said, I feel that random gronks with cameras strapped to their faces filming everybody is totally different. Glasshole video can (and does) go straight to social media where anyone can see it, not just a small group of government people who are (at least in theory) regulated, supervised and democratically accountable. Arguably the horse has already bolted with smartphone cameras (a practice I also find distasteful). If I owned a cafe I'd probably ban both of them.
mmcwilliams 3y ago
It doesn't make much sense that people can't be upset about one thing that they immediately encounter because they have to first be upset by another thing that operates in the background just because you'd prefer it that way. While I despise the ubiquity of security recording in all facets of modern life it is a far more present danger that the person in front of you with the camera will post a maybe-decontextualized version of your encounter on social media than the faceless organization that is rolling tape all day. If you understand the underlying problem is being recorded at all times in public I am not sure what you are confused about in people being upset that more people are doing it more blatantly.
herbst 3y ago
FYI that is not entirely true. Public cameras aren't common or normal here in Switzerland and many surrounding countries. I know that because it's unusual enough that I instantly feel watched in ex. German cities where this is more common. What you describe I've only really seen in Asia, Germany or really touristic squares in poorer countries in Europe.
- eindiran 3y ago
  At least in my experience this is true is of major cities in Germany, UK, US, Canada, and Australia.

danhon 3y ago

Yes, and the next best time is now.

nmfisher 3y ago

I live in Singapore, which probably has the most CCTV coverage of any country in the world. When I was younger, I would (and did) take issue with omnipresent government surveillance, but now I don't really care as much. That being said, I feel that random gronks with cameras strapped to their faces filming everybody is totally different. Glasshole video can (and does) go straight to social media where anyone can see it, not just a small group of government people who are (at least in theory) regulated, supervised and democratically accountable. Arguably the horse has already bolted with smartphone cameras (a practice I also find distasteful). If I owned a cafe I'd probably ban both of them.

mmcwilliams 3y ago

It doesn't make much sense that people can't be upset about one thing that they immediately encounter because they have to first be upset by another thing that operates in the background just because you'd prefer it that way. While I despise the ubiquity of security recording in all facets of modern life it is a far more present danger that the person in front of you with the camera will post a maybe-decontextualized version of your encounter on social media than the faceless organization that is rolling tape all day. If you understand the underlying problem is being recorded at all times in public I am not sure what you are confused about in people being upset that more people are doing it more blatantly.

herbst 3y ago

FYI that is not entirely true. Public cameras aren't common or normal here in Switzerland and many surrounding countries. I know that because it's unusual enough that I instantly feel watched in ex. German cities where this is more common. What you describe I've only really seen in Asia, Germany or really touristic squares in poorer countries in Europe.

eindiran 3y ago
At least in my experience this is true is of major cities in Germany, UK, US, Canada, and Australia.