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I have been using Jetbrains products for a number of years and like them overall but the development over time has been really disappointing. The improvements t

by rurp 3y ago

I have been using Jetbrains products for a number of years and like them overall but the development over time has been really disappointing. The improvements tend to be very minor each year and usually come with new problems. Many of the changes are just UI reshuffles for no good reason which is annoying, and they haven't been very good about supporting new technologies. It feels like a company that started off great but then began coasting on their lead and has largely lost focus. The products are still very good for the most part, but most updates end up being a waste of time.

jgalt212 3y ago
> Many of the changes are just UI reshuffles for no good reason which is annoying I'm still angry over the MS Office ribbon.
latchkey 3y ago
The latest release fixed an open issue I had for 4 years. It was to make the hover for Typescript types look more pretty. They were motivated to finally fix this cause someone else did it for vscode. I'm just glad they fixed it and their products are the best in the industry.
gustavus 3y ago
There's an interesting article that explains why that is the way it is https://www.theregister.com/2011/11/04/bofh_2011_episode_17/ https://www.theregister.com/2011/11/04/bofh_2011_episode_17/
codetrotter 3y ago
> they haven't been very good about supporting new technologies Depends on your language. For me it has been great. Been using CLion for several years now with the Rust plug-in, and recently they began work on a dedicated IDE for Rust :D
- getoffmycase 3y ago
  Yeah I primarily use DataGrip and Rider. I use DataSpell with the R plugin, and Pycharm is a godsend when I have to program something in python. I don’t do it very often and really appreciate pycharm’s ease of use. Rider is a great, lightweight alternative to visual studio 2022. And honestly DataGrip is perfection and shouldn’t be touched.
  - majora2007 3y ago
    Also use Rider and I don't think there is stagnant development. Their new predictive debugger is a great example of feature improvement. Only downside is the cost of CPU/Memory, as I do IntelliJ for web development and Rider for C#. Can be quite heavy. But the products themselves make up for it in base features over something like VS Code.
rogerthis 3y ago
In terms of new features, for me that's ok. However, the amount of bugs in their bugtracker goes up and up. Also, the CPU/memory usage of their tools is a shame.

by rurp 3y ago

jgalt212 3y ago

> Many of the changes are just UI reshuffles for no good reason which is annoying I'm still angry over the MS Office ribbon.

latchkey 3y ago

The latest release fixed an open issue I had for 4 years. It was to make the hover for Typescript types look more pretty. They were motivated to finally fix this cause someone else did it for vscode. I'm just glad they fixed it and their products are the best in the industry.

gustavus 3y ago

There's an interesting article that explains why that is the way it is https://www.theregister.com/2011/11/04/bofh_2011_episode_17/ https://www.theregister.com/2011/11/04/bofh_2011_episode_17/

codetrotter 3y ago

> they haven't been very good about supporting new technologies Depends on your language. For me it has been great. Been using CLion for several years now with the Rust plug-in, and recently they began work on a dedicated IDE for Rust :D

getoffmycase 3y ago
Yeah I primarily use DataGrip and Rider. I use DataSpell with the R plugin, and Pycharm is a godsend when I have to program something in python. I don’t do it very often and really appreciate pycharm’s ease of use. Rider is a great, lightweight alternative to visual studio 2022. And honestly DataGrip is perfection and shouldn’t be touched.
- majora2007 3y ago
  Also use Rider and I don't think there is stagnant development. Their new predictive debugger is a great example of feature improvement. Only downside is the cost of CPU/Memory, as I do IntelliJ for web development and Rider for C#. Can be quite heavy. But the products themselves make up for it in base features over something like VS Code.

rogerthis 3y ago

In terms of new features, for me that's ok. However, the amount of bugs in their bugtracker goes up and up. Also, the CPU/memory usage of their tools is a shame.