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Sometime around 2010, after I had been burned by the nth webFoo that excited me as The Solution (tm) went under, I got very serious about Emacs and (mode)compan

by vcg3rd 3y ago

Sometime around 2010, after I had been burned by the nth webFoo that excited me as The Solution (tm) went under, I got very serious about Emacs and (mode)company, which I had used as just an avaliable text editor on Unix from 1993-1996 and off-and-on on Linux since 1998. Everytime I start lusting after a sweet young thing I ask: Is it local? Is it future-proof? Is it plaintext? Is it extensible by competent users? The answer is always no to one of them (unless it's basically also a text editor like Vim (shudder)), and the "heat" dissipates, and I "rejoice in the wife of my youth."

ethanbond 3y ago
Check out Obsidian if you haven’t already
pard68 3y ago
This is how I feel. I will leave emacs from time to time to try this, that, or the other. But I come back and emacs is there awaiting. I recently learned to love the unadorned emacs (no eVIl mode), and I can't believe I spun my gears in modal land for so long.
smeej 3y ago
Logseq is all these things, and open source!
- hiramfromthechi 3y ago
  It's been a while since I spun up Logseq—are you able to use it collaboratively? That's the biggest obstacle for me with these personal knowledge management apps. They're nice to use individually, but when I need to collaborate with someone, there's no way to delegate access—much less granular access.
  - arcastroe 3y ago
    I recently deployed getoutline.com to my personal kubernetes cluster. It's free to self-host and everything is saved in markdown. It also has collaborative features. I believe it's intended for documentation. But I use it as my note taking app.
  - smeej 3y ago
    I haven't tried since I don't have anyone I need to use it with, but there's a way to set it to back up and sync using git (since they're all markdown files anyway). It wouldn't be real-time (you couldn't both have a document open at once), and you'd probably have to remember to push your changes. Syncthing might also work in a rather hacky way, but would probably also run into real-time collisions.
- eichin 3y ago
  Logseq is definitely worth a try just to run the operations through your fingers, and it's amazing for some people - but after roughly a year and a half, I'm about at the point of picking up the two or three things I really like about logseq and porting them back to emacs and plain-ish markdown. (For most people that would just be "use org-mode" but I've bounced off of it a couple of times already and only want a few simple features...)
  - vcg3rd 3y ago
    Logseq almost got me, especially because it allows org-mode markup and is influenced by TiddlyWiki, which I once used heavily. However the interface (like Roam) is too limiting. I am used to split frames of multiple buffers with others a C-x b away, and treemacs and mu4e and Olivetti mode, and eshell, and dired, and...
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eviks 3y ago
If you limit yourself to the plaintext horses, you'll miss flying cars
unixhero 3y ago
Obsidian comes to mind

by vcg3rd 3y ago

ethanbond 3y ago

Check out Obsidian if you haven’t already

pard68 3y ago

This is how I feel. I will leave emacs from time to time to try this, that, or the other. But I come back and emacs is there awaiting. I recently learned to love the unadorned emacs (no eVIl mode), and I can't believe I spun my gears in modal land for so long.

smeej 3y ago

Logseq is all these things, and open source!

hiramfromthechi 3y ago
It's been a while since I spun up Logseq—are you able to use it collaboratively? That's the biggest obstacle for me with these personal knowledge management apps. They're nice to use individually, but when I need to collaborate with someone, there's no way to delegate access—much less granular access.
- arcastroe 3y ago
  I recently deployed getoutline.com to my personal kubernetes cluster. It's free to self-host and everything is saved in markdown. It also has collaborative features. I believe it's intended for documentation. But I use it as my note taking app.
- smeej 3y ago
  I haven't tried since I don't have anyone I need to use it with, but there's a way to set it to back up and sync using git (since they're all markdown files anyway). It wouldn't be real-time (you couldn't both have a document open at once), and you'd probably have to remember to push your changes. Syncthing might also work in a rather hacky way, but would probably also run into real-time collisions.
eichin 3y ago
Logseq is definitely worth a try just to run the operations through your fingers, and it's amazing for some people - but after roughly a year and a half, I'm about at the point of picking up the two or three things I really like about logseq and porting them back to emacs and plain-ish markdown. (For most people that would just be "use org-mode" but I've bounced off of it a couple of times already and only want a few simple features...)
- vcg3rd 3y ago
  Logseq almost got me, especially because it allows org-mode markup and is influenced by TiddlyWiki, which I once used heavily. However the interface (like Roam) is too limiting. I am used to split frames of multiple buffers with others a C-x b away, and treemacs and mu4e and Olivetti mode, and eshell, and dired, and...

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eviks 3y ago

If you limit yourself to the plaintext horses, you'll miss flying cars

unixhero 3y ago

Obsidian comes to mind