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It's not a court case. There's not a burden of proof. What there is, is a risk analysis, which means you have to consider the risks of any particular action as

It's not a court case. There's not a burden of proof. What there is, is a risk analysis, which means you have to consider the risks of any particular action as well as in NOT taking the action. I've seen literally no discussion about the risks of NOT taking the action. I'm reminded of self-driving cars, because we're worried they might lead to the deaths of thousands of people each year. Meanwhile, over a million people die each year in car accidents. Conclusion: best to let those million people die each year.

baja_blast 3y ago
Well we spent over a decade and millions of dollars studying SARS coronaviruses and yet none of that work was of any help in fighting the pandemic. For example Ecohealth which was publicly funded with our tax dollars has still to this day refused to share it's research/samples/data despite being legally obligated to. The most charitable interpretation for refusing to share this information while millions of people are dying is that it is simply useless. So why continue to fund such dangerous research if the research will be hidden when we actually need it?
- cbsmith 3y ago
  > Well we spent over a decade and millions of dollars studying SARS coronaviruses and yet none of that work was of any help in fighting the pandemic. Wow. Just wow. It's statements like this that make me think we should indeed halt all virology research, and really all medical research and development entirely. We deserve what we get.
  - nvm0n2 3y ago
    All government funded work maybe, yeah? It wouldn't make much difference. The consumers of that sort of research are ultimately just pharma companies and they don't use it much because so little replicates to begin with.
    - cbsmith 3y ago
      You honestly believe that government funded work didn't "make much difference" with dealing with COVID?
      - nvm0n2 3y ago
        Beyond them creating it in the first place you mean? I spent a long time investigating the effectiveness of everything governments did during COVID. None of it worked and a lot of it backfired badly, lockdowns being only one of the most prominent examples. Even the vaccine programme was a disaster: the data claiming otherwise turns out to have all been juked in various ways. We'd have been better off without governments doing anything at all.

baja_blast 3y ago

Well we spent over a decade and millions of dollars studying SARS coronaviruses and yet none of that work was of any help in fighting the pandemic. For example Ecohealth which was publicly funded with our tax dollars has still to this day refused to share it's research/samples/data despite being legally obligated to. The most charitable interpretation for refusing to share this information while millions of people are dying is that it is simply useless. So why continue to fund such dangerous research if the research will be hidden when we actually need it?

cbsmith 3y ago
> Well we spent over a decade and millions of dollars studying SARS coronaviruses and yet none of that work was of any help in fighting the pandemic. Wow. Just wow. It's statements like this that make me think we should indeed halt all virology research, and really all medical research and development entirely. We deserve what we get.
- nvm0n2 3y ago
  All government funded work maybe, yeah? It wouldn't make much difference. The consumers of that sort of research are ultimately just pharma companies and they don't use it much because so little replicates to begin with.
  - cbsmith 3y ago
    You honestly believe that government funded work didn't "make much difference" with dealing with COVID?
    - nvm0n2 3y ago
      Beyond them creating it in the first place you mean? I spent a long time investigating the effectiveness of everything governments did during COVID. None of it worked and a lot of it backfired badly, lockdowns being only one of the most prominent examples. Even the vaccine programme was a disaster: the data claiming otherwise turns out to have all been juked in various ways. We'd have been better off without governments doing anything at all.