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"Housing" might be a "solved issue" in "Asia" but that's absurdly reductionist. Quality of life is not solved. Breathing your neighbors vape and cigarette smoke

"Housing" might be a "solved issue" in "Asia" but that's absurdly reductionist. Quality of life is not solved. Breathing your neighbors vape and cigarette smoke is not solved. Hearing pounding bass through every adjacent wall is not solved. Lack of your own yard is not solved. There are thousands of human problems that arise in condensed compressed living.

Izikiel43 3y ago
And latin america, don't forget that. This comment is literally the point I was trying to make, thank you very much, I couldn't ask for a more typical american answer. If you want to live in a city, and not pay sky high rent, these are going to be some small issues you will have to work with. I say small, because the alternative is not having housing, or paying half of your salary in rent/mortgage. The bass is solved, have the HOA or condo board apply fines for loud noises, which grow exponentially with each infraction. Lack of your own yard? Go to a park, I lived in Vancouver in an apartment, and I had a ton of parks nearby, same in other cities I've lived in. Having a house in a city is luxury, not a need, a home is a need, but that can be an apartment.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  > thinks HOAs are a good idea
  - Izikiel43 3y ago
    vs being homeless? Greatest idea ever
screye 3y ago
No, these totally are solved problems. What apartments are you living in ? Why is your neighbors smoke entering your house ? In my country, everyone cooks highly aromatic food, and even then I can't tell what my neighbors are cooking....let alone smell their vape or cigarettes. Why can you hear pounding bass from our neighbor ? Sound isolation is a solved problem. The thin-walls problem is one I've experienced only after I arrived in the US. Not sure why lack of a yard is a problem at all. What is a yard, except empty green grass ? If it is a communal space to host events, then lots of condo towers have common downstairs areas that can be reserved for free. If it is a garden, then you can easily have patio gardens. Hell, I've seen more gardens in apartments back home (since home cooking is the norm), than I have in yard in the US. If is a backyard, ie. ourdoors private space, then large patios facilitate the exact same outdoors privacy. If it is a playground, then you'll be pleased to know that most apartment complexes in Asia have playgrounds. And guess what? It comes with the community you need to actually form a team to use the playground. It would be one thing if every time I visited the suburbs, if I saw yards being a communal source of activity, happiness and personality that people claim they are. On the contrary, I find that it is miles upon miles on completely empty plots with consistent green grass that has not been stepped on for days. My current apartment in downtown US city has a massive common lounge area and a massive rooftop with a view of the city. We have a large enough patio and I have never heard sounds from my neighbors because it uses bricks rather than dry-wall. (And I live in the THE SPOT for young rich spoiled 20-something). It does everything you get from an SFH, but better. (assuming similar capital investment)
- Izikiel43 3y ago
  Thanks for validating my point, in America it's more a cultural issue I think, everyone is still hung up on getting a house with the yard and the white fence with a car like the 1950s, unfortunately that was 70 years ago.

Izikiel43 3y ago

And latin america, don't forget that. This comment is literally the point I was trying to make, thank you very much, I couldn't ask for a more typical american answer. If you want to live in a city, and not pay sky high rent, these are going to be some small issues you will have to work with. I say small, because the alternative is not having housing, or paying half of your salary in rent/mortgage. The bass is solved, have the HOA or condo board apply fines for loud noises, which grow exponentially with each infraction. Lack of your own yard? Go to a park, I lived in Vancouver in an apartment, and I had a ton of parks nearby, same in other cities I've lived in. Having a house in a city is luxury, not a need, a home is a need, but that can be an apartment.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
> thinks HOAs are a good idea
- Izikiel43 3y ago
  vs being homeless? Greatest idea ever

screye 3y ago

No, these totally are solved problems. What apartments are you living in ? Why is your neighbors smoke entering your house ? In my country, everyone cooks highly aromatic food, and even then I can't tell what my neighbors are cooking....let alone smell their vape or cigarettes. Why can you hear pounding bass from our neighbor ? Sound isolation is a solved problem. The thin-walls problem is one I've experienced only after I arrived in the US. Not sure why lack of a yard is a problem at all. What is a yard, except empty green grass ? If it is a communal space to host events, then lots of condo towers have common downstairs areas that can be reserved for free. If it is a garden, then you can easily have patio gardens. Hell, I've seen more gardens in apartments back home (since home cooking is the norm), than I have in yard in the US. If is a backyard, ie. ourdoors private space, then large patios facilitate the exact same outdoors privacy. If it is a playground, then you'll be pleased to know that most apartment complexes in Asia have playgrounds. And guess what? It comes with the community you need to actually form a team to use the playground. It would be one thing if every time I visited the suburbs, if I saw yards being a communal source of activity, happiness and personality that people claim they are. On the contrary, I find that it is miles upon miles on completely empty plots with consistent green grass that has not been stepped on for days. My current apartment in downtown US city has a massive common lounge area and a massive rooftop with a view of the city. We have a large enough patio and I have never heard sounds from my neighbors because it uses bricks rather than dry-wall. (And I live in the THE SPOT for young rich spoiled 20-something). It does everything you get from an SFH, but better. (assuming similar capital investment)

Izikiel43 3y ago
Thanks for validating my point, in America it's more a cultural issue I think, everyone is still hung up on getting a house with the yard and the white fence with a car like the 1950s, unfortunately that was 70 years ago.