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AI generated Frasier episodes. It is algorithmically inevitable. Mark my words. Within the decade. Seasons of the stuff. And it will be pretty good too.

smsm42 3y ago
To be honest, I'd take that over about 90% of what I get on offer now, at least the new stuff. With one condition - no one ever tries to "improve" or "modernize" it.
afavour 3y ago
I was with you until "it will be pretty good too". Maybe you're right. But I'm yet to see much evidence that AI is actually good at comedy. It's something a whole lot of humans can't do either.
- greggsy 3y ago
  To be fair, there’s a significant proportion of sitcoms that are just regurgitated formulas. Some studio is almost certainly feeding sitcoms and standup comedy into some horrific LolLLM, but it would almost certainly reject prompts such as “The gang goes black” or “Frank gets molested”, and the outcome of “The gang makes Lethal Weapon 6” is unlikely to be even half as entertaining.
  - kridsdale3 3y ago
    Significant portion of sitcoms are formulaic yes. But Frasier was upper crust legitimate good writing.
    - idiotsecant 3y ago
      Frasier was good writing?! I'm not even going to touch the 'upper crust' comment. Was this post actually written by Frasier the character?
    - BaculumMeumEst 3y ago
      Off topic, but have you seen the trailer for the upcoming season? It looks like it might as well have been written by AI. We’re about to get a reminder of how important the supporting cast was on that show. Sad!
      - swayvil 3y ago
        I saw the first 2 episodes. It wasn't good.
        mnky9800n 3y ago
        No Niles or Daphne?
        ascagnel_ 3y ago
        David Hyde Pierce (Niles) and Jane Levees (Daphne) have both declined to return, and John Mahoney (Martin) passed away in 2018; the only returning member of the main cast is Peri Gilpin (Roz), who's only going to make a single guest appearance. Bebe Neuwirth (Lilith) is the only recurring cast member to commit to the new show, and only in a single guest appearance.
        hnlmorg 3y ago
        I haven't watched it yet but do bare in mind that a lot of great shows took a few episodes (or even a couple of seasons) to find their stride. Frasier was no exception, the first few episodes were setting stage for the rest of the show. But as I said, I haven't seen the new series so I cannot comment on whether there's anything there to grow from.
- YeGoblynQueenne 3y ago
  Well, not the current generation of AI. The one we'll have soon, when AI gets good at comedy. /s
sl0tr4cer 3y ago
Running Man was prescient
Verdex 3y ago
Part of me cannot wait. Like, I really want to see Frasier go on a date with a person who he (and everyone else) is only dimly aware is a xenomorph. We as the audience will see it as a full blown xenomorph and see it kill background characters while Frasier is bickering with Niles about something silly. However, I cannot help but wonder in this presumably inevitable techno future of ours, how we will ever talk to anyone about the eventually fever dream quality of media that we'll each individually be consuming in unique niches. I'm already reading Blindsight and wondering how in the world I can even try to explain this to people in my life. Somehow I imagine that it's going to be a lot more difficult to explain why I'm crying my eyes out after Magneto-Gandalf saves the power rangers from certain death from Venom Frasier and then convinces Frasier to finally take off the black suit.
- kridsdale3 3y ago
  Gen Z is all in on Fortnite, where Darth Vader and Spiderman have been battling John Wick and Optimus Prime for years now.
- titanomachy 3y ago
  I keep telling people “Blindsight is about vampires in space, it’s awesome and you have to read it” but most people just give me a weird look and ignore the advice…
  - 9991 3y ago
    It has vampires in space, but it’s not about vampires in space. It’s a strange book, but if I had to say, I’d say it’s about how intelligence can be divorced from consciousness and how utterly eldrich aliens might be.
    - Verdex 3y ago
      Humorously enough there's a Peter Watts essay out there someplace bemoaning how the scramblers ended up as starfish aliens just like how everyone else does their eldritch aliens. The book clearly does a lot of legwork in the 'third act' to really sell the main thesis. Which is great the first time through, but I think makes subsequent readthroughs less impactful. I however always enjoy about the first two thirds. As a software developer, I spend a lot of time looking at the increasingly complex behavior (and even downright 'cleverness') of non-conscious entities. So my takeaway is less "life, but not as we know it" and more "YES, just like that, that's exactly what I've been trying to tell people for years." Unfortunately, explaining my day job in terms of Blindsight isn't exactly a step up.
jareklupinski 3y ago
AI Generated Seinfeld was so incredible, it was shut down I still have my Michael Wave plush
- crtasm 3y ago
  I loved "Nothing, Forever" (here's clips for those that missed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn0iVOtr6FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn0iVOtr6FE ) - it would be great to see similar done with Frasier. The temporary Twitch suspension was due to some of the generated dialogue. I'm not clear if they were forced to remove the Seinfeld stuff? In any case, the new version just doesn't compare: https://www.twitch.tv/watchmeforever https://www.twitch.tv/watchmeforever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing,_Forever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing,_Forever
highwaylights 3y ago
Wait until you see CNN or Fox News in the new world. "It'll blow your socks clean off clicking sound, wink and gun" - AI generated Matthew McConaghey, 2033
mnky9800n 3y ago
There's a new Frasier show on paramount+ whatever that is: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14124236/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14124236/
xoxxala 3y ago
Codebullet on youtube has been doing AI generated Rick & Morty episodes, complete with animation and voices. They aren’t great, but still pretty impressive.

smsm42 3y ago

To be honest, I'd take that over about 90% of what I get on offer now, at least the new stuff. With one condition - no one ever tries to "improve" or "modernize" it.

afavour 3y ago

I was with you until "it will be pretty good too". Maybe you're right. But I'm yet to see much evidence that AI is actually good at comedy. It's something a whole lot of humans can't do either.

greggsy 3y ago
To be fair, there’s a significant proportion of sitcoms that are just regurgitated formulas. Some studio is almost certainly feeding sitcoms and standup comedy into some horrific LolLLM, but it would almost certainly reject prompts such as “The gang goes black” or “Frank gets molested”, and the outcome of “The gang makes Lethal Weapon 6” is unlikely to be even half as entertaining.
- kridsdale3 3y ago
  Significant portion of sitcoms are formulaic yes. But Frasier was upper crust legitimate good writing.
  - idiotsecant 3y ago
    Frasier was good writing?! I'm not even going to touch the 'upper crust' comment. Was this post actually written by Frasier the character?
  - BaculumMeumEst 3y ago
    Off topic, but have you seen the trailer for the upcoming season? It looks like it might as well have been written by AI. We’re about to get a reminder of how important the supporting cast was on that show. Sad!
    - swayvil 3y ago
      I saw the first 2 episodes. It wasn't good.
      - mnky9800n 3y ago
        No Niles or Daphne?
        ascagnel_ 3y ago
        David Hyde Pierce (Niles) and Jane Levees (Daphne) have both declined to return, and John Mahoney (Martin) passed away in 2018; the only returning member of the main cast is Peri Gilpin (Roz), who's only going to make a single guest appearance. Bebe Neuwirth (Lilith) is the only recurring cast member to commit to the new show, and only in a single guest appearance.
      - hnlmorg 3y ago
        I haven't watched it yet but do bare in mind that a lot of great shows took a few episodes (or even a couple of seasons) to find their stride. Frasier was no exception, the first few episodes were setting stage for the rest of the show. But as I said, I haven't seen the new series so I cannot comment on whether there's anything there to grow from.
YeGoblynQueenne 3y ago
Well, not the current generation of AI. The one we'll have soon, when AI gets good at comedy. /s

sl0tr4cer 3y ago

Running Man was prescient

Verdex 3y ago

Part of me cannot wait. Like, I really want to see Frasier go on a date with a person who he (and everyone else) is only dimly aware is a xenomorph. We as the audience will see it as a full blown xenomorph and see it kill background characters while Frasier is bickering with Niles about something silly. However, I cannot help but wonder in this presumably inevitable techno future of ours, how we will ever talk to anyone about the eventually fever dream quality of media that we'll each individually be consuming in unique niches. I'm already reading Blindsight and wondering how in the world I can even try to explain this to people in my life. Somehow I imagine that it's going to be a lot more difficult to explain why I'm crying my eyes out after Magneto-Gandalf saves the power rangers from certain death from Venom Frasier and then convinces Frasier to finally take off the black suit.

kridsdale3 3y ago
Gen Z is all in on Fortnite, where Darth Vader and Spiderman have been battling John Wick and Optimus Prime for years now.
titanomachy 3y ago
I keep telling people “Blindsight is about vampires in space, it’s awesome and you have to read it” but most people just give me a weird look and ignore the advice…
- 9991 3y ago
  It has vampires in space, but it’s not about vampires in space. It’s a strange book, but if I had to say, I’d say it’s about how intelligence can be divorced from consciousness and how utterly eldrich aliens might be.
  - Verdex 3y ago
    Humorously enough there's a Peter Watts essay out there someplace bemoaning how the scramblers ended up as starfish aliens just like how everyone else does their eldritch aliens. The book clearly does a lot of legwork in the 'third act' to really sell the main thesis. Which is great the first time through, but I think makes subsequent readthroughs less impactful. I however always enjoy about the first two thirds. As a software developer, I spend a lot of time looking at the increasingly complex behavior (and even downright 'cleverness') of non-conscious entities. So my takeaway is less "life, but not as we know it" and more "YES, just like that, that's exactly what I've been trying to tell people for years." Unfortunately, explaining my day job in terms of Blindsight isn't exactly a step up.

jareklupinski 3y ago

AI Generated Seinfeld was so incredible, it was shut down I still have my Michael Wave plush

crtasm 3y ago
I loved "Nothing, Forever" (here's clips for those that missed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn0iVOtr6FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn0iVOtr6FE ) - it would be great to see similar done with Frasier. The temporary Twitch suspension was due to some of the generated dialogue. I'm not clear if they were forced to remove the Seinfeld stuff? In any case, the new version just doesn't compare: https://www.twitch.tv/watchmeforever https://www.twitch.tv/watchmeforever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing,_Forever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing,_Forever

highwaylights 3y ago

Wait until you see CNN or Fox News in the new world. "It'll blow your socks clean off clicking sound, wink and gun" - AI generated Matthew McConaghey, 2033

mnky9800n 3y ago

There's a new Frasier show on paramount+ whatever that is: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14124236/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14124236/

xoxxala 3y ago

Codebullet on youtube has been doing AI generated Rick & Morty episodes, complete with animation and voices. They aren’t great, but still pretty impressive.