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Aside from a handful of pitched perfect games and Game 7 of the 1991 World Series? IMO it's Go. It's simple enough that a child will spend more time learning h
by tiznow 3y ago
Aside from a handful of pitched perfect games and Game 7 of the 1991 World Series?
IMO it's Go. It's simple enough that a child will spend more time learning how to hold a stone than the objective, but complex enough that concepts like playing a "divine move" can capture a Go player's fascination for an entire lifetime.
I take issue with this assertion, though:
"In the perfect game, you should still be in with a shot of winning even if you’re not as practised as your opponent. An element of uncertainty is required."
There are few games in life, very few pursuits in which you can remove skill or familiarity and be left with an entertaining test of anything. Maybe luck, which is why craps is the social game. But skill or familiarity? I don't think any sort of "game" exists like this that people take seriously.
Actually, for this train of thought, I maintain that betting on horses is as close to a perfect game as possible. All the research, backside knowledge and modeling might not pan out for you the same way it panned out for the thousands who bet Rich Strike in the 2022 Kentucky Derby because "the name sounded like it was going to pay."
- zone411 3y ago> There are few games in life, very few pursuits in which you can remove skill or familiarity and be left with an entertaining test of anything. Maybe luck, which is why craps is the social game. But skill or familiarity? I don't think any sort of "game" exists like this that people take seriously. The aim is to play a game where both skill and luck play roles, similar to real life. Poker is one such game.
- adolph 3y agoFor Von Neumann, the inspiration for game theory was poker, a game he played occasionally and not terribly well. Von Neumann realized that poker was not guided by probability theory alone, as an unfortunate player who would use only probability theory would find out. Von Neumann wanted to formalize the idea of "bluffing," a strategy that is meant to deceive the other players and hide information from them. https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/projects/1998-99/game-theory/neumann.html https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/project... I learned about Von Neumann and poker from the book "Thinking in Bets" by Annie Duke. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735216371 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735216371
- prometheus76 3y agoPoker is a game where skilled players win more over time, but any player at the table can win a given hand, even if they are unskilled. There are optimal probabilistic strategies, but the cards determine the ultimate outcome.
- throw0101c 3y agoAll types of poker, or particular variations? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poker_variants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poker_variants
- prometheus76 3y agoAll types of poker benefit skilled players over time, but can reward amateurs on any given hand because the outcome of the hand is ultimately determined by the cards (which are shuffled between every hand).