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You realize early on into the pandemic our hospital systems were struggling with the amount of patients that had to come in and see urgent care, right? As in, o

You realize early on into the pandemic our hospital systems were struggling with the amount of patients that had to come in and see urgent care, right? As in, other people with more treatable conditions were dying because hospitals were filled up and there were no staff or beds available. Like this is just an objective fact. COVID now is far more mild because of vaccination and how the virus has evolved (Omnicron being far more mild than the earlier variants).

somenameforme 3y ago
Vaccines have no effect on whether a virus mutates to become milder or more virulent. Effective vaccines, which prevent spread, can eliminate a disease, but clearly the COVID vaccines failed on that front. So for instance the Spanish Flu was an unimaginably brutal disease that primarily killed people in the 20-40 year old range! [1] Just terrifying stuff. But it never disappeared. It's still with us today as a variant of the common seasonal flu. The next time you've a winter fever and some congestion, you might well have the Spanish Flu, or what it's become at least. And obviously there were no vaccines for the Spanish Flu. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Patterns_of_fatality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Patterns_of_fatali...
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- fzeroracer 3y ago
  Yes, and the flu is milder both because of vaccination and the way it's evolved. But even the seasonal flu kills quite a few people every year, the reason why we think it to be milder is because we've gotten used to how it primarily affects vaccinated people. Like what you've done there is a fallacy a lot of people commit, that they conflate seasonal viruses, colds, allergies etc with the flu. But when you actually get the flu, you know it.
  - kylebenzle 3y ago
    No one thinks the flu is mild. Ask ANY doctor or nurse, have "the flu" is hell on earth. You are thinking of the common cold.

somenameforme 3y ago

Vaccines have no effect on whether a virus mutates to become milder or more virulent. Effective vaccines, which prevent spread, can eliminate a disease, but clearly the COVID vaccines failed on that front. So for instance the Spanish Flu was an unimaginably brutal disease that primarily killed people in the 20-40 year old range! [1] Just terrifying stuff. But it never disappeared. It's still with us today as a variant of the common seasonal flu. The next time you've a winter fever and some congestion, you might well have the Spanish Flu, or what it's become at least. And obviously there were no vaccines for the Spanish Flu. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Patterns_of_fatality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Patterns_of_fatali...

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fzeroracer 3y ago
Yes, and the flu is milder both because of vaccination and the way it's evolved. But even the seasonal flu kills quite a few people every year, the reason why we think it to be milder is because we've gotten used to how it primarily affects vaccinated people. Like what you've done there is a fallacy a lot of people commit, that they conflate seasonal viruses, colds, allergies etc with the flu. But when you actually get the flu, you know it.
- kylebenzle 3y ago
  No one thinks the flu is mild. Ask ANY doctor or nurse, have "the flu" is hell on earth. You are thinking of the common cold.