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I think a lot of streaming services offer some sort of 4K upgrade pricing. [0] Doesn't seem like the requirements for netflix are even that demanding, minimum 1

I think a lot of streaming services offer some sort of 4K upgrade pricing. [0] Doesn't seem like the requirements for netflix are even that demanding, minimum 15mbps is at least a common internet speed where I'm from. [0] https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444

tpmx 3y ago
Netflix 4k is laughably bad in comparison to Blu-ray 4k. Blu-Ray 4k has about 10x higher bitrate.
- graypegg 3y ago
  Haha yeah that's possible, I don't even own a 4K TV at the moment, so I'm out of the loop here. I guess in the exact terms of how many lit-up pixels you get per second, it's the same. 15mbps sounds like some serious compression though I bet.
mustacheemperor 3y ago
The requirements are so low because the bitrate is so low. 4k off an internet stream doesn’t compare to off the disc. If you want DolbyVision, HDR, highest resolution and bitrate, physical media is still the only option that I’m aware of. Bummed about this happening because when I’ve tried ordering Bluray from Amazon, the discs sometimes show up loose in the cases and scratched up.
hundchenkatze 3y ago
4k content from Netflix does not look as good as 4k content from Blu-ray. Especially for dark scenes, Netflix's stream is full of decompression artifacts making everything grey and blotchy.
- tpmx 3y ago
  They also have a problem with older noisy 1080p sources. Badly upscaled to 4k and then bandwidth-limited it sometimes looks comically bad. When I tried out the 4k Netflix option in early 2023 I found myself wanting an option to downgrade to their 1080p encoding for a few of the shows I was watching. I was told Netflix hired really smart people for like 300-500k/year for the express purpose of avoiding stupid shit like this.
Retric 3y ago
By comparison Blueray can do 92 mbps on 50GByte disks or 144 mbps on 100GByte disks. I realize different encoding can be more efficient but Netflix etc still just looks worse.
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squeaky-clean 3y ago
UHD disc media has a bitrate from 72mbps to 144mbps. I won't say it's a night and day difference, my parents can't tell the difference. But there's a difference and if you're really particular about quality (okay okay, I'm a bit of a snob) it's a big deal. For something like a Marvel movie, whatever. For something like Planet Earth or 2001, watching it on streaming is disappointing after owning the disc version.
beowulfey 3y ago
Not all titles are available in 4K unfortunately. We used to have the 4K plan, and in my experience very few of the things we watched had it.

tpmx 3y ago

Netflix 4k is laughably bad in comparison to Blu-ray 4k. Blu-Ray 4k has about 10x higher bitrate.

graypegg 3y ago
Haha yeah that's possible, I don't even own a 4K TV at the moment, so I'm out of the loop here. I guess in the exact terms of how many lit-up pixels you get per second, it's the same. 15mbps sounds like some serious compression though I bet.

mustacheemperor 3y ago

The requirements are so low because the bitrate is so low. 4k off an internet stream doesn’t compare to off the disc. If you want DolbyVision, HDR, highest resolution and bitrate, physical media is still the only option that I’m aware of. Bummed about this happening because when I’ve tried ordering Bluray from Amazon, the discs sometimes show up loose in the cases and scratched up.

hundchenkatze 3y ago

4k content from Netflix does not look as good as 4k content from Blu-ray. Especially for dark scenes, Netflix's stream is full of decompression artifacts making everything grey and blotchy.

tpmx 3y ago
They also have a problem with older noisy 1080p sources. Badly upscaled to 4k and then bandwidth-limited it sometimes looks comically bad. When I tried out the 4k Netflix option in early 2023 I found myself wanting an option to downgrade to their 1080p encoding for a few of the shows I was watching. I was told Netflix hired really smart people for like 300-500k/year for the express purpose of avoiding stupid shit like this.

Retric 3y ago

By comparison Blueray can do 92 mbps on 50GByte disks or 144 mbps on 100GByte disks. I realize different encoding can be more efficient but Netflix etc still just looks worse.

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squeaky-clean 3y ago

UHD disc media has a bitrate from 72mbps to 144mbps. I won't say it's a night and day difference, my parents can't tell the difference. But there's a difference and if you're really particular about quality (okay okay, I'm a bit of a snob) it's a big deal. For something like a Marvel movie, whatever. For something like Planet Earth or 2001, watching it on streaming is disappointing after owning the disc version.

beowulfey 3y ago

Not all titles are available in 4K unfortunately. We used to have the 4K plan, and in my experience very few of the things we watched had it.