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Sorry, where is this documented that this lab is known for leaks? To my knowledge, as of 3 months ago, the only “tangible” evidence for a lab leak was that chi

by wredue 3y ago

Sorry, where is this documented that this lab is known for leaks? To my knowledge, as of 3 months ago, the only “tangible” evidence for a lab leak was that china cleaned up before the WHO arrived and could better investigate. You are the first person I have ever seen, after hundreds of articles, claim that the lab is known for leaks.

galangalalgol 3y ago
https://www.vox.com/22453571/lab-leak-covid-19-coronavirus-hypothesis-wuhan-virology-china https://www.vox.com/22453571/lab-leak-covid-19-coronavirus-h... That is where I thought I got it from, but I don't see it just scanning through. Either it came from somewhere else, or I got it confused in the section where they were talking about a Beijing lab. If so they have my apologies.
- galangalalgol 3y ago
  It was this one I think. Edit:https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_chinese-lab-checkered-safety-record-draws-scrutiny-over-covid-19/6187947.html https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_chinese-lab-chec...
pmarreck 3y ago
https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_chinese-lab-checkered-safety-record-draws-scrutiny-over-covid-19/6187947.html https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_chinese-lab-chec... > Two State Department cables show that American embassy officials in Beijing made several visits to the research facility and sent two official warnings back to Washington in early 2018 about the lab’s inadequate safety measures. This was at a time when researchers were conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats, The Washington Post reported, citing intelligence sources. The thing that China does which deserves the most hatred, however, is not the accident: It is the coverup. It's one thing to fuck up; it's another thing to hinder investigation of the fuckup, while trying in vain to "save face," which ends up just resulting in more deaths. A sincere person or organization would say "OK, one of us screwed up, now please help us fix it". It's literally the most basic ethics/honesty lesson we teach kids (at least in the West)- "if you screwed up, 'fess up, and the punishment will be less": > While the U.S. investigates, officials say the Chinese government’s continuing lack of transparency, including with respect to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, raises questions over how the outbreak began. Officials also accuse Beijing of still not sharing all of their data with the international community. > Instead, there is Chinese evidence that the lab had safety problems. VOA has located state media reports showing that there were security incidents flagged by national inspections as well as reported accidents that occurred when workers were trying to catch bats for study.

by wredue 3y ago

galangalalgol 3y ago

https://www.vox.com/22453571/lab-leak-covid-19-coronavirus-hypothesis-wuhan-virology-china https://www.vox.com/22453571/lab-leak-covid-19-coronavirus-h... That is where I thought I got it from, but I don't see it just scanning through. Either it came from somewhere else, or I got it confused in the section where they were talking about a Beijing lab. If so they have my apologies.

galangalalgol 3y ago
It was this one I think. Edit:https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_chinese-lab-checkered-safety-record-draws-scrutiny-over-covid-19/6187947.html https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_chinese-lab-chec...

pmarreck 3y ago

https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_chinese-lab-checkered-safety-record-draws-scrutiny-over-covid-19/6187947.html https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_chinese-lab-chec... > Two State Department cables show that American embassy officials in Beijing made several visits to the research facility and sent two official warnings back to Washington in early 2018 about the lab’s inadequate safety measures. This was at a time when researchers were conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats, The Washington Post reported, citing intelligence sources. The thing that China does which deserves the most hatred, however, is not the accident: It is the coverup. It's one thing to fuck up; it's another thing to hinder investigation of the fuckup, while trying in vain to "save face," which ends up just resulting in more deaths. A sincere person or organization would say "OK, one of us screwed up, now please help us fix it". It's literally the most basic ethics/honesty lesson we teach kids (at least in the West)- "if you screwed up, 'fess up, and the punishment will be less": > While the U.S. investigates, officials say the Chinese government’s continuing lack of transparency, including with respect to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, raises questions over how the outbreak began. Officials also accuse Beijing of still not sharing all of their data with the international community. > Instead, there is Chinese evidence that the lab had safety problems. VOA has located state media reports showing that there were security incidents flagged by national inspections as well as reported accidents that occurred when workers were trying to catch bats for study.