i never said you can't make one. i was responding to this specific part of your comment: "You will save a half hour to an hour to boot." sorry that wasn't clear

i never said you can't make one. i was responding to this specific part of your comment: "You will save a half hour to an hour to boot." sorry that wasn't clear in my original comment. the very hot method evangelized by paul makes this process take 10-15 minutes with practice. his method is hotter than most peoples' approach. i will stop here, because it feels like i unintentionally hit a nerve and arguing with peoples' opinion about roux is akin to arguing about a programming language.