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Let me guess - the honky tonk doesn't have to, but if you're booking rap acts....

by cool_dude85 3y ago

billy99k 3y ago
which group has more crime/bad behavior on average? regardless of act, you ramp up security accordingly.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  Which "group" defines more crimes/bad behaviors on average? Maybe there's a correlation there.
- burnished 3y ago
  You should look into overpolicing and how it impacts those summary statistics; in brief if you look you will find someone breaking a law but bad behavior in one group gets ignored as an exception whereas in another group each incident is treated as emblematic and needing strong corrective action. In my experience both groups are full of pretty similar young men, which makes questions like yours pretty obviously loaded; why are you expecting one to be measurably different?
  - billy99k 3y ago
    "You should look into over policing and how it impacts those summary statistics" This may have been the case 10 years ago, but we have started defunding the police in many major cities. Have we seen a change in crime stats? "if you look you will find someone breaking a law but bad behavior in one group gets ignored as an exception whereas in another group each incident is treated as emblematic and needing strong corrective action" I think if you look at what's actually happening, you might change your opinion on this. "In my experience both groups are full of pretty similar young men, which makes questions like yours pretty obviously loaded; why are you expecting one to be measurably different?" This may be your experience, but probably not reality. I don't really think they care about theory and statistics when there are shootings and violent behavior on certain nights of the week.
    - lucubratory 3y ago
      "we have started defunding the police in many major cities." Is a statement so detached from reality I don't even know where to start. Which major US cities have had their police budget removed, or redirected in whole towards social services and rehabilitation?
    - phatskat 3y ago
      > we have started defunding the police in many major cities Have we? https://youtu.be/3irrROBg7Sg?si=MRDyPOEC2q0SR13O https://youtu.be/3irrROBg7Sg?si=MRDyPOEC2q0SR13O

Let me guess - the honky tonk doesn't have to, but if you're booking rap acts....

billy99k 3y ago

which group has more crime/bad behavior on average? regardless of act, you ramp up security accordingly.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
Which "group" defines more crimes/bad behaviors on average? Maybe there's a correlation there.
burnished 3y ago
You should look into overpolicing and how it impacts those summary statistics; in brief if you look you will find someone breaking a law but bad behavior in one group gets ignored as an exception whereas in another group each incident is treated as emblematic and needing strong corrective action. In my experience both groups are full of pretty similar young men, which makes questions like yours pretty obviously loaded; why are you expecting one to be measurably different?
- billy99k 3y ago
  "You should look into over policing and how it impacts those summary statistics" This may have been the case 10 years ago, but we have started defunding the police in many major cities. Have we seen a change in crime stats? "if you look you will find someone breaking a law but bad behavior in one group gets ignored as an exception whereas in another group each incident is treated as emblematic and needing strong corrective action" I think if you look at what's actually happening, you might change your opinion on this. "In my experience both groups are full of pretty similar young men, which makes questions like yours pretty obviously loaded; why are you expecting one to be measurably different?" This may be your experience, but probably not reality. I don't really think they care about theory and statistics when there are shootings and violent behavior on certain nights of the week.
  - lucubratory 3y ago
    "we have started defunding the police in many major cities." Is a statement so detached from reality I don't even know where to start. Which major US cities have had their police budget removed, or redirected in whole towards social services and rehabilitation?
  - phatskat 3y ago
    > we have started defunding the police in many major cities Have we? https://youtu.be/3irrROBg7Sg?si=MRDyPOEC2q0SR13O https://youtu.be/3irrROBg7Sg?si=MRDyPOEC2q0SR13O