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gang behaviour

by thatgerhard 3y ago

gang behaviour

toomuchtodo 3y ago
More like a Mafia protection racket imho. Worthy of a DoJ complaint and investigation.
- permo-w 3y ago
  what's the difference?
  - Cthulhu_ 3y ago
    "a gang" implies youth staking out territory, going up against other gangs, etc. Mafia implies it's a lot more subtle, someone coming up to a business going "Nice place you got here, would be a shame if something were to happen to it". Protection racket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket).
    - permo-w 3y ago
      this is very tenuous and subjective. typically the mafia is regarded as a type of gang
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Something like this: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-and-us-attorneys-office-district-new-jersey-announce-investigation-city-0 https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-and-us-att... ("Justice Department and U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of New Jersey Announce Investigation of the City of Trenton and the Trenton Police Department")
bilbo0s 3y ago
The cops in concert with some city employees are running a protection racket. But I think it's a bit more like a crime family or maybe a corrupt political machine than it is like a gang. If businesses want to hire security, they should. But it shouldn't be a requirement of having a business. It comes off like the boss of the crime family telling you "I just want to get my beak wet". Like they're shaking down the small businesses. And it's hard to argue that they aren't.
throw0101b 3y ago
Police have formed gangs: * https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/la-is-investigating-50-year-old-police-gangs-finally-2022-03-30/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/la-is-investigating... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynwood_Vikings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynwood_Vikings
- tehwebguy 3y ago
  The police are a gang
  - bombcar 3y ago
    The police are a gang with the express purpose of preventing another gang from coming into existence. For if you remove the police, the residents will eventually establish their own "gang", which eventually becomes the police. Any sufficiently organized crime is indistinguishable from government.

gang behaviour

toomuchtodo 3y ago

More like a Mafia protection racket imho. Worthy of a DoJ complaint and investigation.

permo-w 3y ago
what's the difference?
- Cthulhu_ 3y ago
  "a gang" implies youth staking out territory, going up against other gangs, etc. Mafia implies it's a lot more subtle, someone coming up to a business going "Nice place you got here, would be a shame if something were to happen to it". Protection racket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket).
  - permo-w 3y ago
    this is very tenuous and subjective. typically the mafia is regarded as a type of gang
toomuchtodo 3y ago
Something like this: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-and-us-attorneys-office-district-new-jersey-announce-investigation-city-0 https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-and-us-att... ("Justice Department and U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of New Jersey Announce Investigation of the City of Trenton and the Trenton Police Department")

bilbo0s 3y ago

The cops in concert with some city employees are running a protection racket. But I think it's a bit more like a crime family or maybe a corrupt political machine than it is like a gang. If businesses want to hire security, they should. But it shouldn't be a requirement of having a business. It comes off like the boss of the crime family telling you "I just want to get my beak wet". Like they're shaking down the small businesses. And it's hard to argue that they aren't.

throw0101b 3y ago

Police have formed gangs: * https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/la-is-investigating-50-year-old-police-gangs-finally-2022-03-30/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/la-is-investigating... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynwood_Vikings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynwood_Vikings

tehwebguy 3y ago
The police are a gang
- bombcar 3y ago
  The police are a gang with the express purpose of preventing another gang from coming into existence. For if you remove the police, the residents will eventually establish their own "gang", which eventually becomes the police. Any sufficiently organized crime is indistinguishable from government.