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> If they outlaw encryption but everyone encrypts, they can either do nothing or arrest everyone. Whatever protection I'm getting from non-consensual surveilla

> If they outlaw encryption but everyone encrypts, they can either do nothing or arrest everyone. Whatever protection I'm getting from non-consensual surveillance, I am declining it. I'm not sure if we're mindful of this but Gov's only ethical purpose is to serve us. Past that, it has lost it's way.

ben_w 3y ago
> Whatever protection I'm getting from non-consensual surveillance, I am declining it. So far as I know, the only way to do that is to leave whichever country is doing this, which — trust me on this as one who has done so for slightly messier reasons — is a right PITA even when going somewhere else that has a functioning society. I don't think there's any other way to make yourself an "outlaw" in the old-fashioned sense of the word: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
  > So far as I know, the only way to do that is to leave whichever country is doing this, I get that. My point was more about the value of the protection - of being kept safe from things like FBI's handcrafted terror plots. ref: https://www.techdirt.com/tag/own-plot/ https://www.techdirt.com/tag/own-plot/