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putting AI everywhere to get more money from investors

baq 3y ago
exactly right, buzzword-driven capital acquisition play
jug 3y ago
Yup, there's definitely a window of opportunity here before the market has matured and the hype is still on. I honestly blame myself for being too lazy to capitalize on my basic AI skillz and get paid $$$ for basic advice/guidance to organizations and municipalities here. I know some that are cashing in right now.
loudmax 3y ago
Yes, there's a lot of hype and buzzwords. Certainly companies are slapping the "AI" label onto their products and jumping on the bandwagon in order to gin up interest. But there's a real technological change going on. Machines are capable of performing tasks that were nearly unthinkable two years ago. There's real progress beneath the hype. AI workloads are going to be dramatically more significant in the next decade. A shift like this opens up real opportunities for smaller players to capture enormous market share. If SiFive manages to develop the best AI hardware, they could become bigger than Apple. Or they could fumble and go out of business. Either of these outcomes is genuinely possible when this kind of technological shift happens.
- giantrobot 3y ago
  > But there's a real technological change going on. Machines are capable of performing tasks that were nearly unthinkable two years ago. There's real progress beneath the hype. Like what? What's unthinkable tasks are so useful thanks to AI?
  - i67vw3 3y ago
    Mid-journey is a good example.
    - giantrobot 3y ago
      So AI has made nightmare fuel hands and photoshopped pictures cheaper. Was this unthinkable? Is it trillion dollar valuation worthy?
      - nkingsy 3y ago
        We are running towards the holodeck at shocking speed Speech -> immersive vr is an engineering challenge at this point.
  - visarga 3y ago
    It does a bunch of useful things already. Arguably most users of Copilot see it as having a positive contribution or they would not pay the price. Generative Image models are pretty good at fixing photos and creating vector art. Chatbots, even though they hallucinate, are consistently polite, helpful and efficient. They are good at sparking new ideas, playing fantasy games, debugging and rubberducking. Maybe they are also good therapists, when prompted right. They are universally used for summarisation, text based question answering, and extracting data in JSON.
    - giantrobot 3y ago
      Do any of those uses justify hyperbole that SiFive will be worth a trillion dollars?
      - ansible 3y ago
        A trillion dollars? Heck no. They may be worth more than Arm, Ltd. in a decade or so. That also depends upon Arm making some more bone-headed decisions too.
  - sangnoir 3y ago
    > Like what? What's unthinkable tasks are so useful thanks to AI? Erasing strangers or unwanted items in the background on pictures taken by my phone locally from my Phone's photo app was unthinkable a few years since you needed Photoshop on a PC for that. I assume the TPU is doing heavy lifting on image segmentation since the UX is pretty much touch-to-erase.
  - thekrowndnf 3y ago
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  - chmod775 3y ago
    I asked SD to generate me a photo of Putin eating Turkish food and 30s later had a photo of Putin eating something that looks a lot like Turkish food. If I kept trying or threw more processing time at it, I'd have gotten something nicer. Probably. https://i.imgur.com/y5BfxBF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/y5BfxBF.jpg Two years ago this immensely useful feat would have been impossible to accomplish in 30 seconds. On a more serious note, ChatGPT has made made me a much more productive person. Recent example where it helped me a lot in getting an understanding of a new topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37622335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37622335 - Even when it's making a fair amount of mistakes, it can be like a personal tutor who points you into the right directions when you're stumbling around in an unfamiliar field. Sort of like a much smarter search engine. Granted, useful to me doesn't mean useful to you. But there's also people to whom search engines aren't useful, because they don't know how or when to use them.
unleaded 3y ago
This kind of stuff makes me wonder, are investors really this dumb? Surely they must be able to see something strange is going on when every company ever is suddenly shoving AI into everything, because this has happened many times before but with different things. Maybe they try to keep up the hype because they benefit from it?
- yndoendo 3y ago
  I would say that a lot of investors are not the brightest. They just as receptacle to emotion manipulation and social engineering tactics as most people Theranos is a great example. Good number of rich jumped into the tech while those in the industry knew a drop of blood does not contain the proper sample size for testing multiple markers. Dr. Varun Sivaram's book "Taming the Sun" even talks about Elon Musk's solar panel grifting tactics to seek and exploit investors. How is this any different than investors going for the world changing technology such as blockchains and NFTs? *Edit, fixed spelling.
  - zaptrem 3y ago
    Can you elaborate on the solar panel part? I haven’t heard about that before.
- RicoElectrico 3y ago
  They hope to sell it before everything crashes.
Aaronstotle 3y ago
Its like crypto in the last bullrun

baq 3y ago

exactly right, buzzword-driven capital acquisition play

jug 3y ago

Yup, there's definitely a window of opportunity here before the market has matured and the hype is still on. I honestly blame myself for being too lazy to capitalize on my basic AI skillz and get paid $$$ for basic advice/guidance to organizations and municipalities here. I know some that are cashing in right now.

loudmax 3y ago

Yes, there's a lot of hype and buzzwords. Certainly companies are slapping the "AI" label onto their products and jumping on the bandwagon in order to gin up interest. But there's a real technological change going on. Machines are capable of performing tasks that were nearly unthinkable two years ago. There's real progress beneath the hype. AI workloads are going to be dramatically more significant in the next decade. A shift like this opens up real opportunities for smaller players to capture enormous market share. If SiFive manages to develop the best AI hardware, they could become bigger than Apple. Or they could fumble and go out of business. Either of these outcomes is genuinely possible when this kind of technological shift happens.

giantrobot 3y ago
> But there's a real technological change going on. Machines are capable of performing tasks that were nearly unthinkable two years ago. There's real progress beneath the hype. Like what? What's unthinkable tasks are so useful thanks to AI?
- i67vw3 3y ago
  Mid-journey is a good example.
  - giantrobot 3y ago
    So AI has made nightmare fuel hands and photoshopped pictures cheaper. Was this unthinkable? Is it trillion dollar valuation worthy?
    - nkingsy 3y ago
      We are running towards the holodeck at shocking speed Speech -> immersive vr is an engineering challenge at this point.
- visarga 3y ago
  It does a bunch of useful things already. Arguably most users of Copilot see it as having a positive contribution or they would not pay the price. Generative Image models are pretty good at fixing photos and creating vector art. Chatbots, even though they hallucinate, are consistently polite, helpful and efficient. They are good at sparking new ideas, playing fantasy games, debugging and rubberducking. Maybe they are also good therapists, when prompted right. They are universally used for summarisation, text based question answering, and extracting data in JSON.
  - giantrobot 3y ago
    Do any of those uses justify hyperbole that SiFive will be worth a trillion dollars?
    - ansible 3y ago
      A trillion dollars? Heck no. They may be worth more than Arm, Ltd. in a decade or so. That also depends upon Arm making some more bone-headed decisions too.
- sangnoir 3y ago
  > Like what? What's unthinkable tasks are so useful thanks to AI? Erasing strangers or unwanted items in the background on pictures taken by my phone locally from my Phone's photo app was unthinkable a few years since you needed Photoshop on a PC for that. I assume the TPU is doing heavy lifting on image segmentation since the UX is pretty much touch-to-erase.
- thekrowndnf 3y ago
  [dead]
- chmod775 3y ago
  I asked SD to generate me a photo of Putin eating Turkish food and 30s later had a photo of Putin eating something that looks a lot like Turkish food. If I kept trying or threw more processing time at it, I'd have gotten something nicer. Probably. https://i.imgur.com/y5BfxBF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/y5BfxBF.jpg Two years ago this immensely useful feat would have been impossible to accomplish in 30 seconds. On a more serious note, ChatGPT has made made me a much more productive person. Recent example where it helped me a lot in getting an understanding of a new topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37622335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37622335 - Even when it's making a fair amount of mistakes, it can be like a personal tutor who points you into the right directions when you're stumbling around in an unfamiliar field. Sort of like a much smarter search engine. Granted, useful to me doesn't mean useful to you. But there's also people to whom search engines aren't useful, because they don't know how or when to use them.

unleaded 3y ago

This kind of stuff makes me wonder, are investors really this dumb? Surely they must be able to see something strange is going on when every company ever is suddenly shoving AI into everything, because this has happened many times before but with different things. Maybe they try to keep up the hype because they benefit from it?

yndoendo 3y ago
I would say that a lot of investors are not the brightest. They just as receptacle to emotion manipulation and social engineering tactics as most people Theranos is a great example. Good number of rich jumped into the tech while those in the industry knew a drop of blood does not contain the proper sample size for testing multiple markers. Dr. Varun Sivaram's book "Taming the Sun" even talks about Elon Musk's solar panel grifting tactics to seek and exploit investors. How is this any different than investors going for the world changing technology such as blockchains and NFTs? *Edit, fixed spelling.
- zaptrem 3y ago
  Can you elaborate on the solar panel part? I haven’t heard about that before.
RicoElectrico 3y ago
They hope to sell it before everything crashes.

Aaronstotle 3y ago

Its like crypto in the last bullrun