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Well, they're still in beta, even notifications weren't working that well up until recently. Plus, being closed off from the non-users might be a marketing thin

Well, they're still in beta, even notifications weren't working that well up until recently. Plus, being closed off from the non-users might be a marketing thing. A lot of people were hyping it up with invites being seen as very desirable.

shafyy 3y ago
I get the marketing thing, but if this is the only reason, they've missed the mark. That's cool to do for like a couple of months, not years.
WA 3y ago
Remember Clubhouse? Dead thing, because they didn't open up fast enough (no Android). The momentum is there right now while Twitter is dying. If Bluesky doesn't get this straight within the next few months, I think it'll end up as "just another Mastodon instance" in the minds of people.
- vsnf 3y ago
  Will it even end up as anything at all? I don't think the userbase of Twitter is equipped to know what Bluesky is in any capacity. Except for the terminally online crowd (i.e., you, me, and everyone else on this website), the word isn't out, the hype isn't building, and no one is talking about it. It won't just be "another Mastodon instance", it may as well not even have existed in the first place. Locking read-only viewing to a login wall is something Instagram can get away with due to their network effects, but I don't see Bluesky benefiting from it for that much longer.
- kjksf 3y ago
  > Twitter is dying Could you quantify that statement? All the stats I've seen show that Twitter usage is growing. Happy to be shown different stats, I just hope that you're not causally spreading "trust me bro" facts.
  - basisword 3y ago
    It might be helpful to share your stats also. I can't imagine either position can be verified very well unless you work at Twitter/X.
  - Joeri 3y ago
    https://mashable.com/article/twitter-x-daily-active-users-drop-under-elon-musk https://mashable.com/article/twitter-x-daily-active-users-dr... However, even X's revised number of 245 million daily active users would still see X lose millions or around 3.7 percent of daily active users from before Musk's acquisition. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-traffic-sinks-in-wake-of-changes-and-launch-of-rival-platform-threads-elon-musk https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-t... Matthew Prince posted a graph from Cloudflare’s ranking of the most popular websites in the world showing Twitter has been in decline since the start of 2023, not long after Elon Musk took over the platform. So according to their own (suspect) numbers they have a slight decline, according to outsiders they have a heavy decline. What numbers are you looking at?
- shafyy 3y ago
  I'm pretty certain this is not the reason Clubhouse died out. That format was dead on arrival, and only lived that long because it was artificially kept alive by tech bros and VCs.
JeremyNT 3y ago
> Plus, being closed off from the non-users might be a marketing thing. A lot of people were hyping it up with invites being seen as very desirable. If they can build a small but healthy community first before opening it up, then maybe it will avoid some of the toxicity that other platforms have. People want to be in exclusive clubs, and maybe they will value their membership more this way, leading to more demand from those who are not yet invited.

shafyy 3y ago

I get the marketing thing, but if this is the only reason, they've missed the mark. That's cool to do for like a couple of months, not years.

WA 3y ago

Remember Clubhouse? Dead thing, because they didn't open up fast enough (no Android). The momentum is there right now while Twitter is dying. If Bluesky doesn't get this straight within the next few months, I think it'll end up as "just another Mastodon instance" in the minds of people.

vsnf 3y ago
Will it even end up as anything at all? I don't think the userbase of Twitter is equipped to know what Bluesky is in any capacity. Except for the terminally online crowd (i.e., you, me, and everyone else on this website), the word isn't out, the hype isn't building, and no one is talking about it. It won't just be "another Mastodon instance", it may as well not even have existed in the first place. Locking read-only viewing to a login wall is something Instagram can get away with due to their network effects, but I don't see Bluesky benefiting from it for that much longer.
kjksf 3y ago
> Twitter is dying Could you quantify that statement? All the stats I've seen show that Twitter usage is growing. Happy to be shown different stats, I just hope that you're not causally spreading "trust me bro" facts.
- basisword 3y ago
  It might be helpful to share your stats also. I can't imagine either position can be verified very well unless you work at Twitter/X.
- Joeri 3y ago
  https://mashable.com/article/twitter-x-daily-active-users-drop-under-elon-musk https://mashable.com/article/twitter-x-daily-active-users-dr... However, even X's revised number of 245 million daily active users would still see X lose millions or around 3.7 percent of daily active users from before Musk's acquisition. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-traffic-sinks-in-wake-of-changes-and-launch-of-rival-platform-threads-elon-musk https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-t... Matthew Prince posted a graph from Cloudflare’s ranking of the most popular websites in the world showing Twitter has been in decline since the start of 2023, not long after Elon Musk took over the platform. So according to their own (suspect) numbers they have a slight decline, according to outsiders they have a heavy decline. What numbers are you looking at?
shafyy 3y ago
I'm pretty certain this is not the reason Clubhouse died out. That format was dead on arrival, and only lived that long because it was artificially kept alive by tech bros and VCs.

JeremyNT 3y ago

> Plus, being closed off from the non-users might be a marketing thing. A lot of people were hyping it up with invites being seen as very desirable. If they can build a small but healthy community first before opening it up, then maybe it will avoid some of the toxicity that other platforms have. People want to be in exclusive clubs, and maybe they will value their membership more this way, leading to more demand from those who are not yet invited.