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>The vast majority of noise complaints shouldn't require deadly force or any weapon at all. It's exactly the kind of work that police shouldn't even be involved

>The vast majority of noise complaints shouldn't require deadly force or any weapon at all. It's exactly the kind of work that police shouldn't even be involved in. The problem is many Americans will become violent when told by someone they're being too loud. I had a neighbor in college threaten to shoot me once because I complained about their noise. Police can't be expected to run to their car when some nutcase pulls a gun on them. In other countries this might be ok, but in the land of extremist individualism where there's far more guns than people, it's a bad idea.

autoexec 3y ago
If a police officer came to your door to tell you that you were being too loud would you ignore them unless they had a gun pointed at you? I'm guessing that you wouldn't and neither would your neighbor. Almost no one would. Yes, crazy people do exist, but the overwhelming majority are not psychopaths who would shoot anyone who knocks on their door. Most people understand that if you shoot at the unarmed cop, you'll be quickly surrounded by large numbers of armed ones who will come to lock you away. Very few people will choose to go to prison instead of turning down their music or calming down their guests.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  > Most people understand that if you shoot at the unarmed cop, you'll be quickly surrounded by large numbers of armed ones who will come to lock you away. In many situations, you'll be quickly surrounded by large numbers of armed ones looking to shoot back at you, but if they're forced to accept arresting you unharmed, they will...
FireBeyond 3y ago
Very true. The whole trope of "I will not be disrespected" is a huge US character trait. The problem is for a notable segment of the populace, "disrespect" can be as minor as "looking bemusedly at you" or having the audacity to have a different opinion.

autoexec 3y ago

If a police officer came to your door to tell you that you were being too loud would you ignore them unless they had a gun pointed at you? I'm guessing that you wouldn't and neither would your neighbor. Almost no one would. Yes, crazy people do exist, but the overwhelming majority are not psychopaths who would shoot anyone who knocks on their door. Most people understand that if you shoot at the unarmed cop, you'll be quickly surrounded by large numbers of armed ones who will come to lock you away. Very few people will choose to go to prison instead of turning down their music or calming down their guests.

FireBeyond 3y ago
> Most people understand that if you shoot at the unarmed cop, you'll be quickly surrounded by large numbers of armed ones who will come to lock you away. In many situations, you'll be quickly surrounded by large numbers of armed ones looking to shoot back at you, but if they're forced to accept arresting you unharmed, they will...

FireBeyond 3y ago

Very true. The whole trope of "I will not be disrespected" is a huge US character trait. The problem is for a notable segment of the populace, "disrespect" can be as minor as "looking bemusedly at you" or having the audacity to have a different opinion.