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Yes, but if SponsorBlock or any other solution like that starts to become popular, sponsors will stop paying creators.

by 101008 3y ago

shiroiuma 3y ago
Like it or not, the whole way "free" services on the internet work with ad-blocking, and always have, is that the people blocking ads are taking advantage of technological measures to avoid them, so that the actual cost of serving content is paid (by ad-viewing time) by all the suckers who don't know how to block ads, or don't want to for some reason. It's basically like that with sponsor segments, though here I think it's more like a television or newspaper ad: the sponsor is simply hoping enough people will watch the segment and go buy their stuff (since it's personally recommended by the content creator!!) to make their sponsorship investment worthwhile.
kzshantonu 3y ago
How is it fair for creators to take my premium money AND force me to watch sponsor segments? That's double dipping. YouTube should have a system for marking segments so premium users don't have to watch those segments. Premium users pay with premium money and free users pay by watching YouTube ads + sponsor segments. Fair in my book
- postexitus 3y ago
  So, don't? Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Just don't watch or don't pay premium. Jeez, since when does the world owe you anything?
shiroiuma 3y ago
The only way SponsorBlock will become popular is if a huge fraction of YouTube users switch to 3rd-party clients. I have a really hard time seeing that happening; that would be like most Mac and Windows users all switching to Linux.
- philistine 3y ago
  I just uninstalled the Youtube app. Now I use the website on my phone, and Sponsorblock works without issue. Why do I need the app for anyway?
  - shiroiuma 3y ago
    If I understand you correctly, you're using YouTube in a browser on your phone. SponsorBlock only works on your phone because you've installed an "app": a browser extension that implements it within the browser. Most people don't do this.
    - philistine 3y ago
      More people ought to do this. It's the best way right now to defeat spurious decisions by platforms. Reddit's app is off my phone. I use its terrible website, so I don't go there anymore. Youtube has a good website, and until they enshittify it, it's the best way to experience Youtube on a phone.
      - shiroiuma 3y ago
        I totally agree: using the website (through Firefox + uBo) is generally the best way, because the user has the most control. A proprietary app doesn't give you this.

Yes, but if SponsorBlock or any other solution like that starts to become popular, sponsors will stop paying creators.

by 101008 3y ago

Yes, but if SponsorBlock or any other solution like that starts to become popular, sponsors will stop paying creators.

Like it or not, the whole way "free" services on the internet work with ad-blocking, and always have, is that the people blocking ads are taking advantage of technological measures to avoid them, so that the actual cost of serving content is paid (by ad-viewing time) by all the suckers who don't know how to block ads, or don't want to for some reason. It's basically like that with sponsor segments, though here I think it's more like a television or newspaper ad: the sponsor is simply hoping enough people will watch the segment and go buy their stuff (since it's personally recommended by the content creator!!) to make their sponsorship investment worthwhile.

kzshantonu 3y ago

How is it fair for creators to take my premium money AND force me to watch sponsor segments? That's double dipping. YouTube should have a system for marking segments so premium users don't have to watch those segments. Premium users pay with premium money and free users pay by watching YouTube ads + sponsor segments. Fair in my book

postexitus 3y ago
So, don't? Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Just don't watch or don't pay premium. Jeez, since when does the world owe you anything?

shiroiuma 3y ago

The only way SponsorBlock will become popular is if a huge fraction of YouTube users switch to 3rd-party clients. I have a really hard time seeing that happening; that would be like most Mac and Windows users all switching to Linux.

philistine 3y ago
I just uninstalled the Youtube app. Now I use the website on my phone, and Sponsorblock works without issue. Why do I need the app for anyway?
- shiroiuma 3y ago
  If I understand you correctly, you're using YouTube in a browser on your phone. SponsorBlock only works on your phone because you've installed an "app": a browser extension that implements it within the browser. Most people don't do this.
  - philistine 3y ago
    More people ought to do this. It's the best way right now to defeat spurious decisions by platforms. Reddit's app is off my phone. I use its terrible website, so I don't go there anymore. Youtube has a good website, and until they enshittify it, it's the best way to experience Youtube on a phone.
    - shiroiuma 3y ago
      I totally agree: using the website (through Firefox + uBo) is generally the best way, because the user has the most control. A proprietary app doesn't give you this.