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If I had to rank those features, I'd put build quality way ahead of acceleration The most critical one is the actual charging experience. Tesla is literally in

If I had to rank those features, I'd put build quality way ahead of acceleration The most critical one is the actual charging experience. Tesla is literally in a league of its own, until the NACS switchover gets implemented by the various other manufacturers who have agreed to. The second most critical one is Autopilot/FSD. Even in Beta, FSD is a life-changer / game-changer! Seriously, road trips have gone to basically zero stress and fatigue. Arguments with my wife about driving have also become a thing of the past. Then third, would be the over the air updates. The car poses basically Zero maintenance burden on me, but continually gets better over time. There’s a distorted view of people who don’t own an EV. The reality is different, and it’s one that most people don’t want to go back from, ever!

Rebelgecko 3y ago
Isn't Autopilot basically just adaptive cruise control + lane guidance? I think those features are pretty commoditized now. My non-tesla car does both (although the lane changes are so overly cautious that if I'm in traffic I do it myself). Definitely with you on charging experience + OTA updates though. I imagine the charging experience will mostly be solved in the next few years, but it's disappointing how some (most? All?) legacy car companies still make you go to a service center for patches. Plus, 2015 Teslas still get patches... I can't imagine my car will have any significant changes going forward
- stcredzero 3y ago
  Isn't Autopilot basically just adaptive cruise control + lane guidance? I haven’t used Autopilot for so long, maybe I shouldn’t comment on it any more, since my info is years out of date at this point. If you think of it in this context, FSD beta is basically the shockingly superior best example of that kind of feature, so long as you remember to hit the “minimal lane changes” button. Which you have remember to do every time. :( (To be fair, it’s not 100% perfect.) But then again, there are basically many occasions, where it just straight up drives me home. FSD is quite a bit more than just adaptive cruise control + lane guidance. Even with the requirement that I need to pay attention, it’s still mostly like being driven around.
beej71 3y ago
> The most critical one is the actual charging experience. This is the one thing holding me back from buying an EV in general.
- stcredzero 3y ago
  If you have a garage, then just buy a Tesla. Even if you only have 110v, charging at home overnight with a car that needs close to 0 maintenance is a game changer. No visits to the gas station. No oil changes. No smog test. Costs about half as much to “fuel.” No more petroleum and exhaust smells in the garage. Supercharging just works seamlessly. Here in CA, I can go to even somewhat remote places and charge on road trips without much thought.
  - beej71 3y ago
    I'm not buying a Tesla because [reasons]. I'm eyeing a Bolt, but... slow charging. And yes, I do have a driveway to put a charger outside, though, which would work for 95% of my driving needs. So the slower charging wouldn't kill me, but, WTF, Chevy? (I have a garage, too, but that's there the motorbikes live.)
    - stcredzero 3y ago
      I think it's telling, that one day when I walked by the Tesla showroom, I saw a line of Bolts for trade-in. jsyk

Rebelgecko 3y ago

Isn't Autopilot basically just adaptive cruise control + lane guidance? I think those features are pretty commoditized now. My non-tesla car does both (although the lane changes are so overly cautious that if I'm in traffic I do it myself). Definitely with you on charging experience + OTA updates though. I imagine the charging experience will mostly be solved in the next few years, but it's disappointing how some (most? All?) legacy car companies still make you go to a service center for patches. Plus, 2015 Teslas still get patches... I can't imagine my car will have any significant changes going forward

stcredzero 3y ago
Isn't Autopilot basically just adaptive cruise control + lane guidance? I haven’t used Autopilot for so long, maybe I shouldn’t comment on it any more, since my info is years out of date at this point. If you think of it in this context, FSD beta is basically the shockingly superior best example of that kind of feature, so long as you remember to hit the “minimal lane changes” button. Which you have remember to do every time. :( (To be fair, it’s not 100% perfect.) But then again, there are basically many occasions, where it just straight up drives me home. FSD is quite a bit more than just adaptive cruise control + lane guidance. Even with the requirement that I need to pay attention, it’s still mostly like being driven around.

beej71 3y ago

> The most critical one is the actual charging experience. This is the one thing holding me back from buying an EV in general.

stcredzero 3y ago
If you have a garage, then just buy a Tesla. Even if you only have 110v, charging at home overnight with a car that needs close to 0 maintenance is a game changer. No visits to the gas station. No oil changes. No smog test. Costs about half as much to “fuel.” No more petroleum and exhaust smells in the garage. Supercharging just works seamlessly. Here in CA, I can go to even somewhat remote places and charge on road trips without much thought.
- beej71 3y ago
  I'm not buying a Tesla because [reasons]. I'm eyeing a Bolt, but... slow charging. And yes, I do have a driveway to put a charger outside, though, which would work for 95% of my driving needs. So the slower charging wouldn't kill me, but, WTF, Chevy? (I have a garage, too, but that's there the motorbikes live.)
  - stcredzero 3y ago
    I think it's telling, that one day when I walked by the Tesla showroom, I saw a line of Bolts for trade-in. jsyk