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Serious question - why have we acknowledged that remote schools are bad but remote work is good. I know there are some major differences between school and work

Serious question - why have we acknowledged that remote schools are bad but remote work is good. I know there are some major differences between school and work but communication and sharing knowledge is fundamental to both. What am I missing here ?

FormerBandmate 3y ago
Remote work is better for a certain type of worker who has a lot of time to post, so they post a lot about how bad it is. It is worse for another type of worker who’s more likely to make decisions about work from home
- cableshaft 3y ago
  When I worked exclusively in the office, I posted online just as much as I do now. Perhaps more, as I was younger with less responsibilities. I highly doubt this has any significant effect on the distribution of pro WFH versus pro RTO posts. And if you're really that busy in the office (there has been maybe 2 years in my entire career when that was true, and that was while working at a gaming app startup as lead developer with only two developers on the team) that you have no time to post anything, you can always post before or after work, which I did.
barbazoo 3y ago
children != adults
- krashidov 3y ago
  colleges have all gone back to in person. When they were remote, students were livid about the fact that they were being charged the same amount for remote learning as in person learning
  - tayo42 3y ago
    Students get outraged about stuff all the time. I could understand feeling like part of your tuition is paying for access to stuff on campus and not getting those things though.
    - TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
      I could understand the upset if a university is charging you tuition plus room and board, for remote. Tuition covers the cost of running the university, classes, support services, and everything else you still need as a remote learner.
      - Raidion 3y ago
        Did they really not fire anyone or close any buildings (reducing wear and tear)? It seems like their fixed costs do decrease significantly. Facilities upkeep is incredibly expensive and needs a lot of staff to make happen.
        deafpolygon 3y ago
        Upkeep has to happen whether or not the building is in use. The supposed decrease in fixed cost is not significantly reduced as a result. Otherwise, the building in question will fall into disrepair.
reidjs 3y ago
A large aspect of school is the social aspect. Learning is secondary, you can learn pretty much anything you want for free, now. The main reason people work is to make money. The social aspect will always be secondary. Given the choice of remote or in person, most workers will choose remote. However, many businesses absolutely benefit from work done in person. So it’s up to leadership to decide if their business fits in this category or not.
- tonfreed 3y ago
  I've brought this up that 2 days is where I see a benefit with myself and my team. With us 50/50 the weeks where we come in three times everybody is just tired and demoralised. Anything more than 3 days and we're all essentially spending an extra work day every week just commuting. Senior management doesn't care. They have strategy objectives and KPIs to hit, and they're not going to hit them if they have to write down their commercial property
seanhunter 3y ago
You're not missing anything. You've said that there are some major differences between school and work. Those major differences are probably why remote schools are bad and remote work is good. As sibling comments have pointed out, a very important aspect of education is the socialization - to turn someone into a rounded human being. From an Aristotelian point of view this is actually pretty much the primary purpose of education. It should be obvious that socialization happens much more readily when you are in a group in person without technology intermediating everything. The assumption is by the time you're in the world of work this process has already happened.

FormerBandmate 3y ago

Remote work is better for a certain type of worker who has a lot of time to post, so they post a lot about how bad it is. It is worse for another type of worker who’s more likely to make decisions about work from home

cableshaft 3y ago
When I worked exclusively in the office, I posted online just as much as I do now. Perhaps more, as I was younger with less responsibilities. I highly doubt this has any significant effect on the distribution of pro WFH versus pro RTO posts. And if you're really that busy in the office (there has been maybe 2 years in my entire career when that was true, and that was while working at a gaming app startup as lead developer with only two developers on the team) that you have no time to post anything, you can always post before or after work, which I did.

barbazoo 3y ago

children != adults

krashidov 3y ago
colleges have all gone back to in person. When they were remote, students were livid about the fact that they were being charged the same amount for remote learning as in person learning
- tayo42 3y ago
  Students get outraged about stuff all the time. I could understand feeling like part of your tuition is paying for access to stuff on campus and not getting those things though.
  - TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
    I could understand the upset if a university is charging you tuition plus room and board, for remote. Tuition covers the cost of running the university, classes, support services, and everything else you still need as a remote learner.
    - Raidion 3y ago
      Did they really not fire anyone or close any buildings (reducing wear and tear)? It seems like their fixed costs do decrease significantly. Facilities upkeep is incredibly expensive and needs a lot of staff to make happen.
      - deafpolygon 3y ago
        Upkeep has to happen whether or not the building is in use. The supposed decrease in fixed cost is not significantly reduced as a result. Otherwise, the building in question will fall into disrepair.

reidjs 3y ago

A large aspect of school is the social aspect. Learning is secondary, you can learn pretty much anything you want for free, now. The main reason people work is to make money. The social aspect will always be secondary. Given the choice of remote or in person, most workers will choose remote. However, many businesses absolutely benefit from work done in person. So it’s up to leadership to decide if their business fits in this category or not.

tonfreed 3y ago
I've brought this up that 2 days is where I see a benefit with myself and my team. With us 50/50 the weeks where we come in three times everybody is just tired and demoralised. Anything more than 3 days and we're all essentially spending an extra work day every week just commuting. Senior management doesn't care. They have strategy objectives and KPIs to hit, and they're not going to hit them if they have to write down their commercial property

seanhunter 3y ago

You're not missing anything. You've said that there are some major differences between school and work. Those major differences are probably why remote schools are bad and remote work is good. As sibling comments have pointed out, a very important aspect of education is the socialization - to turn someone into a rounded human being. From an Aristotelian point of view this is actually pretty much the primary purpose of education. It should be obvious that socialization happens much more readily when you are in a group in person without technology intermediating everything. The assumption is by the time you're in the world of work this process has already happened.