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I'm wondering if they did infact submerge the part of the car in water. They all but say that in the article. The headline is Tesla clickbait, as it clearly w
by firecall 3y ago
I'm wondering if they did infact submerge the part of the car in water.
They all but say that in the article.
The headline is Tesla clickbait, as it clearly wasn't just related to driving in the rain, but rather submerging part of the car in water. Probably from driving through a deep enough puddle of water on the road!
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- willcipriano 3y agoAs I kid I rode along as my neighbor drove his pickup truck up to the headlights through a flood in order to save some animals from drowning. If the truck had a stalled we probably would've been pushed off the road and ended up heading down the river. Electric cars have to do better than this.
- bombcar 3y agoWhat they don’t tell you about vehicles designed to do this (a deuce and a half can go almost submerged with the right snorkel kit) is that you get to replace the grease in basically every seal afterwards.
- willcipriano 3y agoIt wasn't designed for it. A f150 I think. He had it for years after that.
- barbazoo 3y agoApples and oranges. An EV truck maybe but an ICE sedan wouldn’t have made through the puddle either probably.
- batch12 3y agoGotta be careful with this. Many vehicles have to be modified so the exhaust is higher, electric, etc. Also, I've always heard that cold water on a hot engine block can cause cracks, but not sure how true that is. Most cars can't ford water like this.
- singleshot_ 3y agoThere’s more: Your differential probably has a vent. If you get your axles good and hot and then shock-cool them driving through a cold puddle, the air inside the diff may shrink and suck water in through the vent. Gear oil plus water equals a substance which will not lubricate your differential gear and unless you drain out the foamy oil/water soup, you’ll have Problems.
- Kirby64 3y agoAlmost any car driven with water 'up to the headlights' is in extreme risk of getting hydrolocked by water getting into the air intake. If that happens, the motor is toast and needs to rebuilt for many thousands of dollars (easily 10k+ for a new car). This isn't any different, in my view.
- willcipriano 3y agoFour horses and a few dogs would've drown if we hadn't gotten them to higher ground. Worth trading a old truck for, and it was fine in the end.
- anthomtb 3y ago> If the truck had a stalled we probably would've been pushed off the road and ended up heading down the river Sounds like a lot more than an old truck was at risk there.
- willcipriano 3y agoSure. I'm not advising anyone do this of course. I feel like heavy rains are a solvable problem for EVs, its probably an easier problem for them to solve compared to ICE. I shared the story to show how sometimes vehicles need to exceed their design parameters, could've easily been people in danger there instead of animals.
- ceejayoz 3y agoPeople were in danger there. People drown regularly driving into shallower water than "up to the headlights". That you made it out didn't mean it was safe; I'd be pretty mad if my neighbor risked my kid's life in this way to save some animals.
- TheNewsIsHere 3y agoThat was very compassionate of you and that guy. Respect.
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- subroutine 3y agoI still feel like it's a design flaw. Smartphones went through a similar headache period. Water damage killed countless phones, and the standard reply back then was it's your fault - pay up. In this case, it is arguable that cars should be more resistant to getting wet than phones. I guess my question is, why isn't the battery and its early connecters better sealed off from water, and is there anything you can put in place to prevent bricking a $17k part if it detects water intrusion.
- TrapLord_Rhodo 3y ago>I guess my question is, why isn't the battery and its early connecters better sealed off from water, and is there anything you can put in place to prevent bricking a $17k part if it detects water intrusion. You should read walter isaicsons new book on Elon. Elon maniacally checks every requirement and process. They literally talk about this in the book. It was deemed "Stupid" to have inserts to make the bottom of the cabin waterproof.
- _ea1k 3y agoI agree. They should be much more robust against this than they are. I think Rivian does quite a bit better. I'm not sure how other manufacturers compare.
- dzhiurgis 3y agoIf you seal it too well it becomes an explosive
- invalidname 3y agoGreat point. It's also much harder to service which is also true for phones. But we discard phones after a couple of years, cars should be serviceable for decades.
- dzhiurgis 3y agoYet somehow you are far less likely need to service sealed phone...
- jrflowers 3y ago> They all but say that in the article. This is a good point, they do not say that they submerged a part of the car anywhere in the article.
- brentm 3y agoMy BS detector goes off whenever someone that is trying to explain something that might be there fault uses "honestly". > I honestly can’t remember any huge puddles or anything like that Something tells me he remembers a fairly big puddle.
- supergirl 3y agowhat is the max puddle depth for a tesla?
- TheNewsIsHere 3y agoI’m not arguing your point. I don’t use “honestly” as a colloquial phrase or crutch word, but I think this has at some point passed into the vernacular as a crutch word. I’m not defending the parties making the claims either. Just an observation.
- jetrink 3y agoI live on a road that floods regularly and I'm always amazed by how many drivers are willing to drive into water that is over two feet deep[1]. Car after car, they plunge in like amphibious operation is a standard feature on new vehicles, sending water over the hood and a wake across my front lawn. All that is to say, I would not be surprised if these people forged ahead into deep waters and are playing dumb when it didn't work out. 1. https://i.imgur.com/htJzqJY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/htJzqJY.jpg
- defrost 3y agoI looked at your photo and that water is barely over the wheel hubs, it seems like a pretty standard small beer ask of a car. Caveat: I live in Australia, we have cars with higher ground clearance and snorkels for when the water gets properly deep.
- ericfrazier 3y agoWater over the wheel hubs is a big deal. If you read your owner's manual submerged hubs requires re-lubing, at the very least. If you submerge a diff or crankcase those have to be drained and redone as well.
- defrost 3y agoI'm not seeing the issue .. we already ramp and block cars and trailers about every 18 months and relube hubs etc, have done for years (since ~1960 by my recollection). I mainly leave that to my father who was born and 1935 and still loves doing that kind of routine maintainence, he used to ride ring pounders through the Kimberley floods back in the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47q6RiwcILg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47q6RiwcILg It's just routine vehicle maintenance, make it a habit and tthey last for years.
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