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For a 23 year old who just got into radiology, being replaced is going to be a rough confusing time, if it happens..., not everyone is some rich old AMA executi

For a 23 year old who just got into radiology, being replaced is going to be a rough confusing time, if it happens..., not everyone is some rich old AMA executive sitting around gold clubs laughing about charging plebs like you a lot of money? Your comment sounds vengeful to the very people you'd turn to if you were facing a medical crisis. I understand the point though, just not sure why people have to make these sweeping statements whenever someone points out that the job losses from AI might be very very rough.

__loam 3y ago
If some aspect of medical care can be effectively automated, we should do it. We should do everything we can to make medical care more affordable. Nobody wants to put you in particular out of a job but frankly if you're arguing that we should keep medical care more expensive because you deserve to get money for a job that a computer can do better, that's a tough argument. Fwiw, I've heard you guys aren't getting replaced by this stuff anyway.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  I I’m just saying it’s not practical for everyone to be replaced because it will crush the economy. Your health depends on you having money to buy food.
  - __loam 3y ago
    I agree we shouldn't use this thing for cultural expression like art and writing, but if all your job entails is interpreting radiological images, and a computer can do it faster, better, and cheaper, you should probably learn some new skills. We're not talking about the wider economy here, we're talking about radiology in particular.
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      I don't think the plan is to stop at radiology.
  - mullingitover 3y ago
    > I I’m just saying it’s not practical for everyone to be replaced because it will crush the economy. The purpose of the economy is to fairly allocate resources to people. Labor is a resource. If we suddenly have no scarcity of labor, that should mean everyone is wealthier than before. If the economy is crushed by suddenly having a limitless supply of a resource, it means the economy isn't able to allocate resources fairly, which is a problem with the economy, not the resource. I'm an optimist and I think people can make the economy adapt to the problem of suddenly being richer than it was previously.
    - __loam 3y ago
      The problem as ever is equity.
mullingitover 3y ago
> Your comment sounds vengeful to the very people you'd turn to if you were facing a medical crisis. No, it's vengeful to the cartel that restricts the number of doctors that are allowed to exist[1]. Now there aren't enough radiologists[2]. If AI can solve this problem and get everyone the needed care, I'm all for it. The end that society is pursuing is a healthy population that isn't crippled by medical costs. If you're able to earn a living solving that problem, wonderful. If you're not, I'm sorry, but the medical field shouldn't primarily be a welfare system that incidentally provides health care. [1] https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/03/15/ama-scope-of-practice-lobbying/ https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/03/15/ama-scope... [2] https://www.acr.org/Practice-Management-Quality-Informatics/ACR-Bulletin/Articles/March-2022/The-Radiology-Labor-Shortage https://www.acr.org/Practice-Management-Quality-Informatics/...
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  Your health depends on you having money to buy food. I’d say most jobs are some type of welfare.

__loam 3y ago

If some aspect of medical care can be effectively automated, we should do it. We should do everything we can to make medical care more affordable. Nobody wants to put you in particular out of a job but frankly if you're arguing that we should keep medical care more expensive because you deserve to get money for a job that a computer can do better, that's a tough argument. Fwiw, I've heard you guys aren't getting replaced by this stuff anyway.

ChatGTP 3y ago
I I’m just saying it’s not practical for everyone to be replaced because it will crush the economy. Your health depends on you having money to buy food.
- __loam 3y ago
  I agree we shouldn't use this thing for cultural expression like art and writing, but if all your job entails is interpreting radiological images, and a computer can do it faster, better, and cheaper, you should probably learn some new skills. We're not talking about the wider economy here, we're talking about radiology in particular.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    I don't think the plan is to stop at radiology.
- mullingitover 3y ago
  > I I’m just saying it’s not practical for everyone to be replaced because it will crush the economy. The purpose of the economy is to fairly allocate resources to people. Labor is a resource. If we suddenly have no scarcity of labor, that should mean everyone is wealthier than before. If the economy is crushed by suddenly having a limitless supply of a resource, it means the economy isn't able to allocate resources fairly, which is a problem with the economy, not the resource. I'm an optimist and I think people can make the economy adapt to the problem of suddenly being richer than it was previously.
  - __loam 3y ago
    The problem as ever is equity.

mullingitover 3y ago

> Your comment sounds vengeful to the very people you'd turn to if you were facing a medical crisis. No, it's vengeful to the cartel that restricts the number of doctors that are allowed to exist[1]. Now there aren't enough radiologists[2]. If AI can solve this problem and get everyone the needed care, I'm all for it. The end that society is pursuing is a healthy population that isn't crippled by medical costs. If you're able to earn a living solving that problem, wonderful. If you're not, I'm sorry, but the medical field shouldn't primarily be a welfare system that incidentally provides health care. [1] https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/03/15/ama-scope-of-practice-lobbying/ https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/03/15/ama-scope... [2] https://www.acr.org/Practice-Management-Quality-Informatics/ACR-Bulletin/Articles/March-2022/The-Radiology-Labor-Shortage https://www.acr.org/Practice-Management-Quality-Informatics/...

ChatGTP 3y ago
Your health depends on you having money to buy food. I’d say most jobs are some type of welfare.