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Also lots of people are really susceptible to placebo. The people I see on carnivore diet who feel "so amazing" now, are the same ones who feel so amazing every

Also lots of people are really susceptible to placebo. The people I see on carnivore diet who feel "so amazing" now, are the same ones who feel so amazing every time they try a new diet. If the liver is so amazing at filtering all this out of the animals we eat, when why doesn't our liver do it when we eat?

DecoPerson 3y ago
If an animal consumes poisonous food, is injured by the poison (but not killed), then is butchered and none of the poison remains in the meat, then the animal has “filtered” the poison for us. Our livers and such do filter such things out, but we are injured before/during that filtering. A vegetable that is coated in some preservative chemical to keep its shiny coating does not filter that chemical out. Additionally, herbicides and pesticides that are sprayed on the plots may or may not be picked up by the crops and may or may not be filtered by those crops before they get to us. Or may or may not be converted to some other chemical that isn’t the same! It’s such a complex scenario that we cannot know whether we are dosing ourselves with health or behaviour -affecting chemicals unless we spend far, far more money on research (both wide-spread statistical research and hyper-focused chemical pathway research). Carnivore seems like a good way to get some filtering? It’s hard though, it’s expensive, questionably healthy, and questionably unethical.
sph 3y ago
It's disingenuous to ascribe health benefits over years to placebo. Placebo works on individual experiments, not in the long-term, because it would not be placebo any more, would it? > If the liver is so amazing at filtering all this out of the animals we eat, when why doesn't our liver do it when we eat? That's disingenuous as well. The liver isn't made to filter chemicals that are constantly ingested over a long time, because they tend to accumulate and cause damage. Additionally, how can a human liver have evolved to filter chemicals we have invented in the past 100 years?

DecoPerson 3y ago

If an animal consumes poisonous food, is injured by the poison (but not killed), then is butchered and none of the poison remains in the meat, then the animal has “filtered” the poison for us. Our livers and such do filter such things out, but we are injured before/during that filtering. A vegetable that is coated in some preservative chemical to keep its shiny coating does not filter that chemical out. Additionally, herbicides and pesticides that are sprayed on the plots may or may not be picked up by the crops and may or may not be filtered by those crops before they get to us. Or may or may not be converted to some other chemical that isn’t the same! It’s such a complex scenario that we cannot know whether we are dosing ourselves with health or behaviour -affecting chemicals unless we spend far, far more money on research (both wide-spread statistical research and hyper-focused chemical pathway research). Carnivore seems like a good way to get some filtering? It’s hard though, it’s expensive, questionably healthy, and questionably unethical.

sph 3y ago

It's disingenuous to ascribe health benefits over years to placebo. Placebo works on individual experiments, not in the long-term, because it would not be placebo any more, would it? > If the liver is so amazing at filtering all this out of the animals we eat, when why doesn't our liver do it when we eat? That's disingenuous as well. The liver isn't made to filter chemicals that are constantly ingested over a long time, because they tend to accumulate and cause damage. Additionally, how can a human liver have evolved to filter chemicals we have invented in the past 100 years?