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At some point, we should learn to upload our videos elsewhere. https://joinpeertube.org/en https://joinpeertube.org/en

by ploum 3y ago

vmfunction 3y ago
yes! However youtube got stuck with a lot great videos. Unless someone form IPFS or torrent community are already secretively archiving youtube videos. Then youtube video random view key will just serve as an index for videos for a globally archived videos (the video can also sit on owner's hard drive) (kinda like what archive.org is doing for web page). Then someone can write a plugin to republish the video to peertube, web torrent, odyssey all the other alternative video sharing sites. This shall at least to start take people's dependancy off of youtube/alphabet/google platform/infrastructure.
- wesapien 3y ago
  No doubt there are people doing that for awhile now.
- ploum 3y ago
  Peertube allows you to mirror a Youtube channel so, at the very least, creators could already create a Peertube mirror of their own content with very few effort. Peertube also allows to proeminently display a configurable "support" button to redirect viewers to your patreon/liberapay/paypal or whatever. The only reason to not mirror your content to peertube? Because you want people to watch Youtube ads. But, as this news show us, nobody want to watch the ads. PS: I’m surprized peertube is not more famous so I posted it independently here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37906699 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37906699
GabeIsko 3y ago
While I agree in principle, I think the harsh reality is that hosting video content is a much heavier lift than text. I don't have confidence that a decentralized video platform really any legs atm. Being wrong about this would be a pleasant surprise. Stuff like individuous is better positioned to start mixing youtube content with videos from decentralized hosting. But I don't think anyone has committed to doing that. I'm sure google would not like it either. I know Freetube has already committed to not being interested in this. I'll be on the lookout for a fork.
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black_puppydog 3y ago
I've been off YouTube for a few days and missed the new ad blocker news until coming to this thread. Now I'm like... `sigh` I guess it's time YouTube had it's mastodon moment... But indeed Video is a different (heavier) beast than text. I would assume a less perverse set of incentives that a federated platform offers would get rid of 99+% of the "content" that Youtube currently hosts, but the remaining 1% would still generate traffic many times bigger than mastodon I'd think.

At some point, we should learn to upload our videos elsewhere. https://joinpeertube.org/en https://joinpeertube.org/en

by ploum 3y ago

At some point, we should learn to upload our videos elsewhere. https://joinpeertube.org/en https://joinpeertube.org/en

yes! However youtube got stuck with a lot great videos. Unless someone form IPFS or torrent community are already secretively archiving youtube videos. Then youtube video random view key will just serve as an index for videos for a globally archived videos (the video can also sit on owner's hard drive) (kinda like what archive.org is doing for web page). Then someone can write a plugin to republish the video to peertube, web torrent, odyssey all the other alternative video sharing sites. This shall at least to start take people's dependancy off of youtube/alphabet/google platform/infrastructure.

wesapien 3y ago
No doubt there are people doing that for awhile now.
ploum 3y ago
Peertube allows you to mirror a Youtube channel so, at the very least, creators could already create a Peertube mirror of their own content with very few effort. Peertube also allows to proeminently display a configurable "support" button to redirect viewers to your patreon/liberapay/paypal or whatever. The only reason to not mirror your content to peertube? Because you want people to watch Youtube ads. But, as this news show us, nobody want to watch the ads. PS: I’m surprized peertube is not more famous so I posted it independently here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37906699 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37906699

GabeIsko 3y ago

While I agree in principle, I think the harsh reality is that hosting video content is a much heavier lift than text. I don't have confidence that a decentralized video platform really any legs atm. Being wrong about this would be a pleasant surprise. Stuff like individuous is better positioned to start mixing youtube content with videos from decentralized hosting. But I don't think anyone has committed to doing that. I'm sure google would not like it either. I know Freetube has already committed to not being interested in this. I'll be on the lookout for a fork.

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black_puppydog 3y ago

I've been off YouTube for a few days and missed the new ad blocker news until coming to this thread. Now I'm like... `sigh` I guess it's time YouTube had it's mastodon moment... But indeed Video is a different (heavier) beast than text. I would assume a less perverse set of incentives that a federated platform offers would get rid of 99+% of the "content" that Youtube currently hosts, but the remaining 1% would still generate traffic many times bigger than mastodon I'd think.