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Extremely difficult? No. SponsorBlock already removes in-stream ads. If things get more complicated, ML will be employed. It's an arms race but so far things se

Extremely difficult? No. SponsorBlock already removes in-stream ads. If things get more complicated, ML will be employed. It's an arms race but so far things seem to be on our side. Long-term, I don't know.

0x073 3y ago
They could just block buffering this video until the time of the ad is finished on serverside, as they know how long the ad is. You still can block ads but you must wait if you see a black window or an ad stream.
- guerrilla 3y ago
  We can just buffer manually and wait. It's an unsolvable problem without DRM, and even then...
- treyd 3y ago
  This whole approach would massively increase the cost of distribution due to how CDN networks scale.
- 9991 3y ago
  A silent black screen would still be a win. Ads are disinformation.
  - flakes 3y ago
    Yep, I'm tired of fighting the arms race with twitch ads, so I just mute the video now and do something else for a few minutes. I would honestly be perfectly happy with a black screen for 30 seconds as a compromise to ads. I only leave the twitch webpage because the visuals bother me almost just as much as hearing the stupid sales pitch or the goofy "lol we're so cheeky and random" jokes made non-stop by insurance company ads.
- PhasmaFelis 3y ago
  I'd rather a silent black screen than an ad.
101008 3y ago
I can't understand people using SponsorBlock. Basically you want people creating videos for free?
- shiroiuma 3y ago
  Me watching a sponsor segment isn't going to make any money for the video creator. They're being paid by the sponsor to place the segment in their video; there's no way for the sponsor to track who watches it. The segment is just a waste of my time. This is separate from YouTube itself tracking who watches the video, and for how long (and if they skip any), and if they watch any ads, and then giving a bit of money to the creator for the ad views.
  - 101008 3y ago
    Yes, but if SponsorBlock or any other solution like that starts to become popular, sponsors will stop paying creators.
    - shiroiuma 3y ago
      Like it or not, the whole way "free" services on the internet work with ad-blocking, and always have, is that the people blocking ads are taking advantage of technological measures to avoid them, so that the actual cost of serving content is paid (by ad-viewing time) by all the suckers who don't know how to block ads, or don't want to for some reason. It's basically like that with sponsor segments, though here I think it's more like a television or newspaper ad: the sponsor is simply hoping enough people will watch the segment and go buy their stuff (since it's personally recommended by the content creator!!) to make their sponsorship investment worthwhile.
    - kzshantonu 3y ago
      How is it fair for creators to take my premium money AND force me to watch sponsor segments? That's double dipping. YouTube should have a system for marking segments so premium users don't have to watch those segments. Premium users pay with premium money and free users pay by watching YouTube ads + sponsor segments. Fair in my book

0x073 3y ago

They could just block buffering this video until the time of the ad is finished on serverside, as they know how long the ad is. You still can block ads but you must wait if you see a black window or an ad stream.

guerrilla 3y ago
We can just buffer manually and wait. It's an unsolvable problem without DRM, and even then...
treyd 3y ago
This whole approach would massively increase the cost of distribution due to how CDN networks scale.
9991 3y ago
A silent black screen would still be a win. Ads are disinformation.
- flakes 3y ago
  Yep, I'm tired of fighting the arms race with twitch ads, so I just mute the video now and do something else for a few minutes. I would honestly be perfectly happy with a black screen for 30 seconds as a compromise to ads. I only leave the twitch webpage because the visuals bother me almost just as much as hearing the stupid sales pitch or the goofy "lol we're so cheeky and random" jokes made non-stop by insurance company ads.
PhasmaFelis 3y ago
I'd rather a silent black screen than an ad.

101008 3y ago

I can't understand people using SponsorBlock. Basically you want people creating videos for free?

shiroiuma 3y ago
Me watching a sponsor segment isn't going to make any money for the video creator. They're being paid by the sponsor to place the segment in their video; there's no way for the sponsor to track who watches it. The segment is just a waste of my time. This is separate from YouTube itself tracking who watches the video, and for how long (and if they skip any), and if they watch any ads, and then giving a bit of money to the creator for the ad views.
- 101008 3y ago
  Yes, but if SponsorBlock or any other solution like that starts to become popular, sponsors will stop paying creators.
  - shiroiuma 3y ago
    Like it or not, the whole way "free" services on the internet work with ad-blocking, and always have, is that the people blocking ads are taking advantage of technological measures to avoid them, so that the actual cost of serving content is paid (by ad-viewing time) by all the suckers who don't know how to block ads, or don't want to for some reason. It's basically like that with sponsor segments, though here I think it's more like a television or newspaper ad: the sponsor is simply hoping enough people will watch the segment and go buy their stuff (since it's personally recommended by the content creator!!) to make their sponsorship investment worthwhile.
  - kzshantonu 3y ago
    How is it fair for creators to take my premium money AND force me to watch sponsor segments? That's double dipping. YouTube should have a system for marking segments so premium users don't have to watch those segments. Premium users pay with premium money and free users pay by watching YouTube ads + sponsor segments. Fair in my book