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Linked to Parkinsons and cancer. And it's still for sale next to fertilizer in the home box store so you can spray your yard and poison your family.

algoatecorn 3y ago
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- ejb999 3y ago
  ...or at McDonalds.
- Podgajski 3y ago
  What about dementia and Alzheimer’s? https://www.kpwashingtonresearch.org/news-and-events/recent-news/news-2021/roundup-3-recent-studies-dementia-risk https://www.kpwashingtonresearch.org/news-and-events/recent-...
  - ffssffss 3y ago
    In this context "Roundup" means "collection". None of these studies are about the herbicide Roundup.
    - Podgajski 3y ago
      Sorry, I made the same mistake in another response as well. I meant to paste this. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0300483X13000322 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S03004...
- profsummergig 3y ago
  Has anyone here tried the bespoke home-made weed-icide made with vinegar + salt + dish-soap? If yes, was it effective? A cursory google search suggests the internet is divided on this.
  - anon84873628 3y ago
    You can also just use boiling water. Killing above ground vegetative structures is easy. The problem for most people are perennial weeds with deep storage structures. It's very hard to kill those without a metabolic poison (or lots of labor over long times)
  - ses1984 3y ago
    Has anyone tried not using any pesticides or herbicides on their yard? I haven’t dropped anything on my yard except for grass seed in 15 years and it’s fine. So what if there are some weeds on it.
    - profsummergig 3y ago
      I did. The neighbors lodged a complaint. They didn't buy my theory that the field of dandelions could be turned into wine.
      - ses1984 3y ago
        Is that a homeowner’s association thing or a municipal thing? Either way, that sucks. I have some dandelions here and there but you only notice them for a very short while.
      - mhandley 3y ago
        Dandelions are pretty and seem to survive far better in my lawn than grass does. So dandelions it is. Can't imagine having neighbours that would complain.
      - tharkun__ 3y ago
        Oh that sucks. Luckily here the city even has flyers on how to have more natural lawns, which works naturally against grubs etc. We have lots of dandelions, especially close to the street. So do the neighbors though they are the religious once a week mowers. The trick I find is to let them be beautiful while it's mostly a sea of yellow and then mow as it turns into just ugly stalks with blown away seeds. And have a hedgerow so that you only need to mow the part between that and the street. I've also sown in clover on purpose. Something many will try to eradicate. Stays green much longer and better in summers when the grass just turns brownish. Some neighbors around us irrigate. I refuse to do that. Very sandy soil to begin with (there's sand pits around) and grass on top of the septic system just doesn't thrive in hot dry summers. So we either get clover green, white and red or brown. Their choice.
declan_roberts 3y ago
Actually because of these lawsuits it's becoming hard to find glyphosate in stores. Most roundup has a new cocktail of herbicides which will probably end up being 10x worse than the original glyphosate.
- improv 3y ago
  When it comes to toxic industrial chemicals, it's innocent until proven guilty... 50 years and millions of diseases and deaths later
nightfly 3y ago
I'm really cagey about using chemical pesticide/herbicides but Roundup will probably still be my first choice if I have to use it. It _still_ seems less bad than any of the alternatives.
- anon84873628 3y ago
  Indeed. Compare with say paraquat where one sip will kill you with no cure. I use Roundup very carefully to manage bindweed and Bermuda grass. It's the only method practical for home scale and timeline. It should not be used indiscriminately at industrial scale, where cultural practices are more appropriate and important.
trgn 3y ago
This is the mirage. Seeing roundup on shelves at home depot casts a spell. Because it is, it must. There is no reason for pesticides for residential use. The virginal lawn is an aesthetic and just that. Fads and aspirations can change. Some aspirations are vile, some are virtuous. So let's ban it there. Then, some years after, when that hypnotic waft from the orgiastic excess of Roundup bottles at the garden center has evaporated, let's see how many people will still be carrying water for its industrial use.
manonthewall 3y ago
Are you eating dandelions out of your yard or something?

algoatecorn 3y ago

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ejb999 3y ago
...or at McDonalds.
Podgajski 3y ago
What about dementia and Alzheimer’s? https://www.kpwashingtonresearch.org/news-and-events/recent-news/news-2021/roundup-3-recent-studies-dementia-risk https://www.kpwashingtonresearch.org/news-and-events/recent-...
- ffssffss 3y ago
  In this context "Roundup" means "collection". None of these studies are about the herbicide Roundup.
  - Podgajski 3y ago
    Sorry, I made the same mistake in another response as well. I meant to paste this. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0300483X13000322 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S03004...
profsummergig 3y ago
Has anyone here tried the bespoke home-made weed-icide made with vinegar + salt + dish-soap? If yes, was it effective? A cursory google search suggests the internet is divided on this.
- anon84873628 3y ago
  You can also just use boiling water. Killing above ground vegetative structures is easy. The problem for most people are perennial weeds with deep storage structures. It's very hard to kill those without a metabolic poison (or lots of labor over long times)
- ses1984 3y ago
  Has anyone tried not using any pesticides or herbicides on their yard? I haven’t dropped anything on my yard except for grass seed in 15 years and it’s fine. So what if there are some weeds on it.
  - profsummergig 3y ago
    I did. The neighbors lodged a complaint. They didn't buy my theory that the field of dandelions could be turned into wine.
    - ses1984 3y ago
      Is that a homeowner’s association thing or a municipal thing? Either way, that sucks. I have some dandelions here and there but you only notice them for a very short while.
    - mhandley 3y ago
      Dandelions are pretty and seem to survive far better in my lawn than grass does. So dandelions it is. Can't imagine having neighbours that would complain.
    - tharkun__ 3y ago
      Oh that sucks. Luckily here the city even has flyers on how to have more natural lawns, which works naturally against grubs etc. We have lots of dandelions, especially close to the street. So do the neighbors though they are the religious once a week mowers. The trick I find is to let them be beautiful while it's mostly a sea of yellow and then mow as it turns into just ugly stalks with blown away seeds. And have a hedgerow so that you only need to mow the part between that and the street. I've also sown in clover on purpose. Something many will try to eradicate. Stays green much longer and better in summers when the grass just turns brownish. Some neighbors around us irrigate. I refuse to do that. Very sandy soil to begin with (there's sand pits around) and grass on top of the septic system just doesn't thrive in hot dry summers. So we either get clover green, white and red or brown. Their choice.

declan_roberts 3y ago

Actually because of these lawsuits it's becoming hard to find glyphosate in stores. Most roundup has a new cocktail of herbicides which will probably end up being 10x worse than the original glyphosate.

improv 3y ago
When it comes to toxic industrial chemicals, it's innocent until proven guilty... 50 years and millions of diseases and deaths later

nightfly 3y ago

I'm really cagey about using chemical pesticide/herbicides but Roundup will probably still be my first choice if I have to use it. It _still_ seems less bad than any of the alternatives.

anon84873628 3y ago
Indeed. Compare with say paraquat where one sip will kill you with no cure. I use Roundup very carefully to manage bindweed and Bermuda grass. It's the only method practical for home scale and timeline. It should not be used indiscriminately at industrial scale, where cultural practices are more appropriate and important.

trgn 3y ago

This is the mirage. Seeing roundup on shelves at home depot casts a spell. Because it is, it must. There is no reason for pesticides for residential use. The virginal lawn is an aesthetic and just that. Fads and aspirations can change. Some aspirations are vile, some are virtuous. So let's ban it there. Then, some years after, when that hypnotic waft from the orgiastic excess of Roundup bottles at the garden center has evaporated, let's see how many people will still be carrying water for its industrial use.

manonthewall 3y ago

Are you eating dandelions out of your yard or something?