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it's doubly stupid because you can eat dandelions which are one of the many "weeds" people kill with this shit to protect their useless-at-best lawns. kill you
by LesZedCB 3y ago
it's doubly stupid because you can eat dandelions which are one of the many "weeds" people kill with this shit to protect their useless-at-best lawns.
kill your lawn. plant native shit.
- cmrdporcupine 3y agopeople don't spray glyphosate on their lawns. it's a systemic non-specific herbicide that will kill your grass (or any other plant) you might be thinking of dicamba or 2,4d which are much worse for the environment (and probably for you) and target broadleaf plants only (e.g. dandelions) glyphosate is most used for cash crop farming, large quantities sprayed on "roundup ready" corn and soy that has been engineered to be immune to it
- baq 3y agoAlso used for dessication (…is that a word…?): https://cropscience.bayer.co.uk/roundup-hub/roundup-use-pre-harvest/ https://cropscience.bayer.co.uk/roundup-hub/roundup-use-pre-...
- cmrdporcupine 3y agoYeah, though there are other contact herbicides that tend to work better for that. Definitely "mini" or "new" potatoes is where this happens a lot. Kill the plant before full maturity so that the tuber stops growing and accumulates starches, then harvest. The potato farms near me do it, it's kinda gross.
- lotsofpulp 3y agoGlyphosate would kill lawns too.
- LesZedCB 3y agoI just searched for "remove weeds from lawn" and while they do admirably suggest manual removal methods first, the last resort measures are indeed chemical herbicides, including specifically glyphosate
- cmrdporcupine 3y agothat would be an insane last resort, because it would just kill the grass. you'd be better off at that point to just rototil it in and start over
- sokoloff 3y agoIt's commonly used in a renovation situation: fertilize and water well in early August to get everything growing, then hit it with two applications of glyphosate spaced about 2 weeks apart to kill everything, then scalp it as low as you reasonably can and seed with quality seed of whatever variety/varieties of grass you want to grow. If you believe glyphosate is relatively harmless (as compared to a series of 6-10 applications of selective herbicides to achieve not quite as good as the same end result), it's easy to understand why people are inclined to declare bankruptcy on their mess of a lawn and start fresh. Applying it in August, you could have a high-quality uniform lawn by October. (If it's far from harmless, then the series of selective treatments might be better.) Rototilling to start over just surfaces a bunch of latent weed seeds that are in the top few inches of soil always. To start over, you want to kill everything growing without disturbing the soil and surfacing the weed seeds.
- cmrdporcupine 3y agoRototilling to start over just surfaces a bunch of latent weed seeds This is true but I get the impression that most urban lots are just using rolls of sod anyways.
- bluGill 3y agoRototill is much worse for the environment. You have all the CO2 released from the effort. Plus bare ground that will erode away in wind or rain. Then you have all the organic matter in the soil you destory. Or a little round up and plant grass seed over the top. Much less CO2, and the soil and organic matter stay in place.
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
- SoftTalker 3y agoYes Roundup will kill your whole lawn, if you apply it to your whole lawn. It will also spot-kill weeds if you apply it just to the weeds. You'll be left with a little dead patch that you can re-seed after a week or so. I gave up on having a beautiful weed-free lawn a long time ago. The cost and time it takes to keep one is just not a good value for me. So whatever grows, grows. I mow it every couple of weeks.
- Waterluvian 3y agoI need a ground cover my kids can play on. Clover is a really nice option. The tragedy is that it spreads like a weed, which means my neighbours must accept my choice or install some ridiculous barriers, harming the existing characteristic of us all using each other’s lawn as a common play area. It would be nice if clover was just kind of the de facto standard.
- cmrdporcupine 3y agoThere's nothing wrong with growing grass mixed with clover. Clover on its own tho won't form a complete groundcover. There's nothing wrong with having a lawn if you don't live in a drought-prone area. It's a lot less work than anything else people suggest. Just run a mower over it every couple weeks. And just plant with grass seeds adapted for your area, mix with clover, and ignore your stupid neighbours.
- Waterluvian 3y ago…yeah no. I have wonderful neighbours. It’s sad that some people don’t.
- cmrdporcupine 3y agowhat do they have against clover? they sound uptight
- mvdtnz 3y agoClover invades garden beds. It will choke out an edible garden and destroy the aesthetics of an ornamental garden. It will prevent seedlings from thriving. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting clover to invade your garden beds.
- Waterluvian 3y agoBeyond that, they don’t need a reason at all. Imposing one’s beliefs and opinions on a neighbour is the kind of intellectually stunted behaviour that we’re struggling with as a species.
- olyjohn 3y agoDandelions taste gross though. That's why nobody wants to eat them. Also, grass is native in a lot of places.
- mvdtnz 3y agoThe amount of glyphosate being used in lawns is not contributing to glyphosate in water supplies. We're discussing industrial scales here.
- isk517 3y agoIf you live in North America the common dandelion is actually an invasive species.