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So long as power management is not a central core component managed by the kernel, this will continue to be a problem on Linux. Apple hardware is untouchable fo

So long as power management is not a central core component managed by the kernel, this will continue to be a problem on Linux. Apple hardware is untouchable for battery life precisely for this reason; they don't use bigger batteries or have a significantly lower TDP than anything else. It's just tons and tons of clever little hacks implemented at every layer of the OS that sum up to a seamless experience while maintaining optimal power usage.

1970-01-01 3y ago
It's been this way forever, don't expect a fix. Battery management, sleep, suspend, monitor wake, and even CPU throttle is fundamentally broken compared to Windows or Mac. Hours of time can be invested to make it work, but then it will just break again randomly.
theodric 3y ago
Look, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I get 4 hours of web browsing out of my M1 air with 83% battery health so it must go deeper, like Firefox is deoptimized or something. It's about on par with my ThinkPad E14, and worse than my 2017 i7 MacBook Air, disappointingly.
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- jwells89 3y ago
  Generally both Chrome and Firefox are significantly worse for battery life under macOS than Safari is. I think the main thing is that standalone browser vendors aren’t incentivized to care all that much about being efficient; for them acing speed benchmarks and gee-whiz bells and whistles seems to be what sells better. By contrast OS vendors want battery life figures to look great because that sells laptops. This is why pre-Chromium MS Edge bested Chrome and Firefox for battery life on Windows and why Safari does the same on macOS today.
megous 3y ago
power management is a central core component managed by the kernel
nntwozz 3y ago
The Apple M1 etc. chips are actually one of the main reasons why they now have such a huge lead in battery life. It's not all deeply integrated software, back in the Intel days macOS still had great battery life but the new chips took it to the next level.
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1970-01-01 3y ago

It's been this way forever, don't expect a fix. Battery management, sleep, suspend, monitor wake, and even CPU throttle is fundamentally broken compared to Windows or Mac. Hours of time can be invested to make it work, but then it will just break again randomly.

theodric 3y ago

Look, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I get 4 hours of web browsing out of my M1 air with 83% battery health so it must go deeper, like Firefox is deoptimized or something. It's about on par with my ThinkPad E14, and worse than my 2017 i7 MacBook Air, disappointingly.

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jwells89 3y ago
Generally both Chrome and Firefox are significantly worse for battery life under macOS than Safari is. I think the main thing is that standalone browser vendors aren’t incentivized to care all that much about being efficient; for them acing speed benchmarks and gee-whiz bells and whistles seems to be what sells better. By contrast OS vendors want battery life figures to look great because that sells laptops. This is why pre-Chromium MS Edge bested Chrome and Firefox for battery life on Windows and why Safari does the same on macOS today.

megous 3y ago

power management is a central core component managed by the kernel

nntwozz 3y ago

The Apple M1 etc. chips are actually one of the main reasons why they now have such a huge lead in battery life. It's not all deeply integrated software, back in the Intel days macOS still had great battery life but the new chips took it to the next level.

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