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You do realize the irony of your post, right? I use "the elite" broadly instead of targeting Bezos or Musk or Clinton or Trump because it is a collective phenom

You do realize the irony of your post, right? I use "the elite" broadly instead of targeting Bezos or Musk or Clinton or Trump because it is a collective phenomenon. If one member of the elite stumbles, another member of the elite will replace them. The elite verifiably did get behind "the end of history" narrative, and their opinions matter because they have a global megaphone in the form of the mainstream media. It's not some grand conspiracy of rich people plotting in a dark room. It is the common interest of an extremely influential class.

mistrial9 3y ago
it is exactly my point that social class analysis is not applicable to the current conditions, to some large extent...
- pphysch 3y ago
  There is tremendous consolidation among global corporations. Look at their boards. The vast majority are Ivy League-educated and/or come from generational wealth. Same schools, same boards, same vacation spots, same parties, etc. Same ideas about how the world works. The class delineation is quite clear. Yes, there is a lot of variation and rising "counter-elites", but why exactly should we ignore the elephant in the room?
  - mistrial9 3y ago
    here in the USA, long and durable actions were taken to break apart class lines, into competitive sub-situations.. and many steps. Since I know only the USA, I said some "overly general and under-informed" things like this about class dynamics, to a colleague from Japan. I got hours of lecture as a response.. some of the same in England too, post WWII. A giant driver for the massive deconstruction of class privelage was exactly an unrelenting obsession by bystanders, to claim that any and all adverse results are due to "the elite decided this" .. so -- to be on the Board of any of those companies is generally speaking an end-result of 25 solid years of competitive situations, where some people "win" .. the Board directors are MORE exploitive and aggressive precisely because they will be replaced with others that will do it. I utterly disagree that there is some insider track in the USA that results from where you went to kindergarten or who you spend vacations with..

mistrial9 3y ago

it is exactly my point that social class analysis is not applicable to the current conditions, to some large extent...

pphysch 3y ago
There is tremendous consolidation among global corporations. Look at their boards. The vast majority are Ivy League-educated and/or come from generational wealth. Same schools, same boards, same vacation spots, same parties, etc. Same ideas about how the world works. The class delineation is quite clear. Yes, there is a lot of variation and rising "counter-elites", but why exactly should we ignore the elephant in the room?
- mistrial9 3y ago
  here in the USA, long and durable actions were taken to break apart class lines, into competitive sub-situations.. and many steps. Since I know only the USA, I said some "overly general and under-informed" things like this about class dynamics, to a colleague from Japan. I got hours of lecture as a response.. some of the same in England too, post WWII. A giant driver for the massive deconstruction of class privelage was exactly an unrelenting obsession by bystanders, to claim that any and all adverse results are due to "the elite decided this" .. so -- to be on the Board of any of those companies is generally speaking an end-result of 25 solid years of competitive situations, where some people "win" .. the Board directors are MORE exploitive and aggressive precisely because they will be replaced with others that will do it. I utterly disagree that there is some insider track in the USA that results from where you went to kindergarten or who you spend vacations with..